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PipKelpy

  • Joined Mar 2019
  • North Shropshire
  • Dreamer with docile cattle and sheep!
Sheep movement (blame oldish age!)
« on: May 25, 2022, 05:48:39 pm »
England is 6 days, I know that.

If I were to move sheep on, next week, 1st June, I can move off lambs for auction on the 7th cant I?

I have a good memory, never forget anything, but movements for cattle and sheep, I always count on the 7th day, but this time, I need it to be the 6th!
Halter train the cattle to keep them quiet but watch your back when they come a'bulling! Give them all names even those you plan to eat. Always be calm. Most importantly, invest in wellies with steel toe caps and be prepared for the clever cow who knows where the toe caps end!!

twizzel

  • Joined Apr 2012
Re: Sheep movement (blame oldish age!)
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2022, 06:11:26 pm »
No, the first day doesnít count. So you wonít be able to move off until the 8th, unless itís a red slaughter market, or direct to abattoir.

harmony

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: Sheep movement (blame oldish age!)
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2022, 06:47:48 pm »
No, the first day doesnít count. So you wonít be able to move off until the 8th, unless itís a red slaughter market, or direct to abattoir.


I thought that the standstill period began at the time the animal arrives on the holding. So if the animals arrive on at 9am Monday then you could go to a sale after 9 on the Sunday but if they didn't come on until 5pm you miss the Sunday sale. I know someone who fell short of the 6 days standstill by a couple of hours when they had a licence inspection.

twizzel

  • Joined Apr 2012
Re: Sheep movement (blame oldish age!)
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2022, 08:23:01 pm »

PipKelpy

  • Joined Mar 2019
  • North Shropshire
  • Dreamer with docile cattle and sheep!
Re: Sheep movement (blame oldish age!)
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2022, 09:09:03 pm »
No, the first day doesnít count. So you wonít be able to move off until the 8th, unless itís a red slaughter market, or direct to abattoir.
https://www.ceredigion.gov.uk/business/trading-standards/animal-health-welfare/standstill-rules/


https://shropshire.gov.uk/trading-standards/animal-health-and-welfare/new-livestock-keepers-guide/moving-livestock/


No, you need 6 full days and the arrival day doesnít count. Arrives on at 9am Sunday, nothing can leave till 9am the following Sunday.

Going by Shropshire Council, that's how I count it, on Sunday, off Sunday, = 7 days, counting on my fingers, starting Monday, Sunday is finger 7, but I thought standstill was 6, start Monday, day 6 = Saturday!

Bloody hell, EVERYTHING was so much simpler before foot & mouth hit the country! Sheep on/off, same with Cattle, no premovement tests....... I DO understand the stops & I do agree with it. Just the timings are a bit off!
Halter train the cattle to keep them quiet but watch your back when they come a'bulling! Give them all names even those you plan to eat. Always be calm. Most importantly, invest in wellies with steel toe caps and be prepared for the clever cow who knows where the toe caps end!!

harmony

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: Sheep movement (blame oldish age!)
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2022, 08:52:59 am »
I don't see how the hours in the first day don't count. And if they don't then surely your standstill starts midnight of that first day and finishes at midnight of the sixth. Not at the corresponding time on the 7th day to the time the animal moved on, the day which appears not to count?


Personally, I think anyone would be hard pushed to prosecute someone for observing 144 hours from the point the animals arrived.


The General Licence which guides us all including Trading Standards says the following
6 day [/size]rule[/color]
[/size]5). No sheep or goats may be moved under this licence from premises on to which one or more cattle, sheep, goats or pigs have been moved in the preceding 6 day period where this would not be lawful under the Disease Control Order. A summary of the relevant exemptions under that Order in relation to this rule is set out in Annex A.
[/size][/color]So, the key bit is the interpretation of preceding six day period. [/font]
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