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suziequeue

  • Joined Feb 2010
  • Llanidloes; Powys
Best time for ram lamb to have a vasectomy
« on: April 07, 2014, 12:27:48 pm »
Following on from our experience last/this year, we are thinking about making one of our current crop of  ram lambs into a teaser ram in order to shorten our lambing period and get the girls receptive to the ram when the time comes.

We have a ram lamb who has a short tail so he's definitely not going to be a breeder. We've got plenty of lamb in the freezer.

When is the best age for him to have his tubes tied??
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Me

  • Joined Feb 2014
  • Wild West
Re: Best time for ram lamb to have a vasectomy
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2014, 12:51:35 pm »
I've done young-old (4-5 month lambs-rams) and all seemed to work just fine

shep53

  • Joined Jan 2011
  • Dumfries & Galloway
Re: Best time for ram lamb to have a vasectomy
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2014, 12:52:24 pm »
Depends on how well grown and how the testes develop but can be done from 3months of age but must be done 4-6wks before intended use, and you may have problems keeping flys off in the summer .    Personally I  vasectomise in jan when about 8 mths of age ready to use as a shearling . :farmer:

mowhaugh

  • Joined Jul 2013
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Re: Best time for ram lamb to have a vasectomy
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2014, 01:05:16 pm »
Depends on how well grown and how the testes develop but can be done from 3months of age but must be done 4-6wks before intended use, and you may have problems keeping flys off in the summer .    Personally I  vasectomise in jan when about 8 mths of age ready to use as a shearling . :farmer:

Same here.

suziequeue

  • Joined Feb 2010
  • Llanidloes; Powys
Re: Best time for ram lamb to have a vasectomy
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2014, 01:40:19 pm »
January it is then :-)

Gives us a chance to have a practice run this autumn with a hired/borrowed teaser ram and then make the commitment to having our own for next  autumn.
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farmvet

  • Joined Feb 2014
Re: Best time for ram lamb to have a vasectomy
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2014, 11:45:15 pm »
How many sheep do you have? An alternative would be to sponge the ewes which would mean lambing would be over in 5 days! If 80+% hold to the tup you could either accept the others as empty or leave the tup in and have another week of lambing 2-3weeks later. The downside is you need 1 tup to about 10ewes although you can stagger the sponging a bit to increase the ratio.

suziequeue

  • Joined Feb 2010
  • Llanidloes; Powys
Re: Best time for ram lamb to have a vasectomy
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2014, 07:47:58 am »
Thanks. We considered sponging and decided against it - hence the question about the teaser ram. We have 10 breeding ewes and don't have enough land to increase the numbers much above that.
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Hillview Farm

  • Joined Dec 2012
  • Surrey
  • Proud owner of sheep and Llamas!
Re: Best time for ram lamb to have a vasectomy
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2014, 09:32:55 am »
How many sheep do you have? An alternative would be to sponge the ewes which would mean lambing would be over in 5 days! If 80+% hold to the tup you could either accept the others as empty or leave the tup in and have another week of lambing 2-3weeks later. The downside is you need 1 tup to about 10ewes although you can stagger the sponging a bit to increase the ratio.

So to get them to lamb in 5 days do you implant them together or do you stagger it?

Me

  • Joined Feb 2014
  • Wild West
Re: Best time for ram lamb to have a vasectomy
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2014, 10:47:13 am »
All together

Foobar

  • Joined Mar 2012
  • South Wales
Re: Best time for ram lamb to have a vasectomy
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2014, 11:07:17 am »
If you stagger sponging (or the withdrawal of the sponge)  -  If one ram can do 10 ewes in one day (ish) ... how many days rest does he need before he can do any more?

Me

  • Joined Feb 2014
  • Wild West
Re: Best time for ram lamb to have a vasectomy
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2014, 11:18:13 am »
Next day he should be ok to go again - but I have never tried this and don't know how far you can push it, 10 per day for a month sounds like it wouldn't work out well
What are people being charged to carry out the vasectomies?
« Last Edit: April 08, 2014, 11:21:27 am by Me »

Dogwalker

  • Joined Nov 2011
Re: Best time for ram lamb to have a vasectomy
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2014, 11:58:02 am »
Does it work to just ring the sac empty so he still has his balls but too warm to be fertile.

One of last years bottle lambs from a local farm is like that and seemed to get the shetlands in the mood.
Does it cause any problems I'm unaware of.

Foobar

  • Joined Mar 2012
  • South Wales
Re: Best time for ram lamb to have a vasectomy
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2014, 12:21:11 pm »
Does it work to just ring the sac empty so he still has his balls but too warm to be fertile.

One of last years bottle lambs from a local farm is like that and seemed to get the shetlands in the mood.
Does it cause any problems I'm unaware of.
The trouble with that is that a "rig" can't be guaranteed to be infertile.

shep53

  • Joined Jan 2011
  • Dumfries & Galloway
Re: Best time for ram lamb to have a vasectomy
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2014, 12:31:34 pm »
Next day he should be ok to go again - but I have never tried this and don't know how far you can push it, 10 per day for a month sounds like it wouldn't work out well
What are people being charged to carry out the vasectomies?
              This jan 25each on farm .

Me

  • Joined Feb 2014
  • Wild West
Re: Best time for ram lamb to have a vasectomy
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2014, 01:49:40 pm »
Ok thanks Shep, is that for a minimum number plus call out and drugs or all in?
The short scrotum method is cheap and cheerful but can go badly wrong when it is very cold for a long time - viable sperm can suddenly be produced

 

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