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Title: Where do I start
Post by: nikks14 on September 29, 2015, 02:56:25 pm
Hi everyone, first of all sorry if this is in the wrong place  :-\ Thank you to everyone that provided advice when we were looking for a property.  We have now found it  :D Fingers crossed in November we will be moving into our new house with 10 acres and room for our current business in Lincolnshire.  Question is where on earth do I start? So please advise, I think baby steps bit by bit.  Eventually we will be looking at sheep, pigs, poulty , and maybe even some lowland beef.  Very small scale just enough for us and of course growing our own all organic.  Please any advice on planning and book recomendations whilst I am awaiting the move would be great. thank you very much. First job I think will be clearing and preparing veg and fruit ground and fencing, I like Charles no dig approach  :D
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: fiestyredhead331 on September 29, 2015, 03:46:54 pm
congratulations  :thumbsup:

now comes the hard work but sounds like you have done a lot of preparation for this event, just take your own advice, start with a few of this and that and see what works and what doesn't, we are all still learning even after all these years  :innocent:
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: nikks14 on September 29, 2015, 04:13:01 pm
Thank you I think that will be the key having a bit of self confidence and just going step by step rather than trying to do too much too soon!
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: Bionic on September 29, 2015, 04:36:23 pm
Glad you got the place you wanted. Don't jump into things. Its very easy to buy animals so take your time in deciding what you want and when you want them.
Chickens are probably the easiest to start with and you get lots of enjoyment from them as well as eggs.
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: Dans on September 29, 2015, 07:44:04 pm
Hi,

We got our first place a month ago, also in Lincs (between Spalding and Peterborough). Like you wondering where to start. Trying not to rush into livestock and wondering if it is worth getting sheep or chickens this late in the year. Also think setting up a veg bed is our best first move.

Hope your move goes smoothly.

Dans
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: devonlady on September 29, 2015, 09:25:00 pm
Welcome from Devon.
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: Lesley Silvester on September 29, 2015, 11:41:38 pm
 :wave: from Shropshire.  :excited: times for you and I wish you well with your venture/adventure.
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: nikks14 on September 30, 2015, 11:40:13 am
Thank you everyone, and Dan I think you are right we aim to start with vegetables and fencing and plan for animals for next year. :D
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: Caroline1 on September 30, 2015, 02:19:30 pm
We are coming to the end of our first year. We brought chickens/ducks & bees with us so limited ourselves to add 2 new animals and start the veg patch. It has been quite successful and meant we didn't overwhelm ourselves. We added pigs then goats, both have been a joy and haven't looked back but there is so much to learn.

Next year I am hoping to have Geese and sheep, both for meat (although have a lot more reading and preparation to do) before committing.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: DavidandCollette on October 01, 2015, 09:13:18 am
Make contact with www.lsssc.org.uk (http://www.lsssc.org.uk) you will probably find some useful contacts (and some nice people)
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: cloddopper on October 01, 2015, 09:37:06 pm
Hi everyone, first of all sorry if this is in the wrong place  :-\ Thank you to everyone that provided advice when we were looking for a property.  We have now found it  :D Fingers crossed in November we will be moving into our new house with 10 acres and room for our current business in Lincolnshire.  Question is where on earth do I start? So please advise, I think baby steps bit by bit.  Eventually we will be looking at sheep, pigs, poulty , and maybe even some lowland beef.  Very small scale just enough for us and of course growing our own all organic.  Please any advice on planning and book recomendations whilst I am awaiting the move would be great. thank you very much. First job I think will be clearing and preparing veg and fruit ground and fencing, I like Charles no dig approach  :D
Hi Welcome to the site  , what part of Lincolnshire are you hoping to be in ?

 I suggest long before you go deep into the stock to read and read many times :-
 Farm building construction by Blackwell Scientific . ( or a very similar sort of name )  as a book worth its weight in gold .

 Do make written plans for everything .. The human neck top computer is very fallible despite what we like to think .

 The book gives you food for thought about setting out your buildings  ,planning & implementing the infra structure and also how to actually construct them.

 I found that about the best way of starting our mammal was to write down what we wanted at the end of the day .  Then design and plan in staged developments  to accommodate it .

That way we didn't have to do the same work three or four times and have to change things & systems when we got bigger. Having a plan also meant that there was always something to do that could be fitted around our daily life . instead of always having to fight fires and try and build the enterprise in between .   
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: pharnorth on October 02, 2015, 07:29:30 am
It's a great adventure and so far has taken me best part of 15 years to get to the stock range you are looking for (albeit no cattle).  Agree with all the comments on planning especially for buildings and fence/ gate layouts.  A moveable poultry shed and some electric netting is a neat way of getting started while you work everything else out.  Good stock fencing all around the perimeter then think hard before you start sub division as it is easy to get over complicated. If you are going to fence your veg patch could consider a moveable ark and a couple of weaner pigs to do the clearing and digging for you.  It would all be ready for spring planting along with some nice pork chops.
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: devonlady on October 02, 2015, 08:44:02 am
I agree with the points made above! Forward thinking and proper planning have never been my strong points and when we bought our land ten or so years ago it was one huge field. I rushed into dividing it up and soon found myself regretting the placing of gateways so as to make a lot of walking (lovely in fine weather but not so good in winter in rain, mud and howling gales!!)
Put everything down on paper and imagine said rain, mud etc.
Remember the saying "Only a fool learns by his own mistakes, a wise man learns by the mistakes of others"
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: nikks14 on October 15, 2015, 04:01:53 pm
Thank you, I have been busy planning and reading, we are fortunate in that we have seven buildings in situ, the rest is two big areas.  I was planning on clearing all myself, and thinking of animals next year, but the idea of some weaners to help has made me think again.  Thank you to everyone it is great to know other poelples experiences and advis :), we will hopefully be in North Lincolnshire in a months time.  Lots to do here with our business (20,000 car parts) and house to pack up and move, exciting and overwhelming in equal measures!
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: kelly58 on October 15, 2015, 04:17:01 pm
Hi from Caithness  :wave:
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: nikks14 on October 15, 2015, 05:13:58 pm
 :wave:
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: Quirkygirl on October 16, 2015, 11:19:14 am
Good luck with everything :fc: :fc: :fc: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:.
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: bazzais on October 17, 2015, 09:43:49 pm
First you have to decide if you want it to be commercially viable - ie do you want to make money from it or do you have jobs and cash to spend and just keep animals as pets.  And if the later - do you have the money to have that many pets.
Title: Re: Where do I start
Post by: nikks14 on October 21, 2015, 12:50:50 pm
hi kelly  :wave: :)