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Anke

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Heating oil rebate
« on: January 19, 2023, 02:04:31 pm »
Has anyone seen any more info on how/when the 200 pounds rebate for homes that use heating oil will be paid?


It is supposed to be paid via my electricity supplier, but - no surprise - total silence from them. How do they even know I have an oil central heating system?


Anyone with any advice on how to proceed?

Izzy

  • Joined May 2009
  • Stirlingshire
Re: Heating oil rebate
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2023, 01:59:59 am »
According to the Citizens Advice website it will be paid in February. Thank you for mentioning it… I thought the £66/£67 credits to my electricity bill was the total. How they know who doesn’t have gas…well they must have a database I guess.

twizzel

  • Joined Apr 2012
Re: Heating oil rebate
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2023, 10:43:42 am »
Money saving expert said last week it would be around February time.

chrismahon

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  • Gascony, France
Re: Heating oil rebate
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2023, 02:07:52 pm »
All of this may be completely irrelevant but we had to apply for our oil cheque. It was means tested, so they checked our last tax return and sent us one for €100 which we must give to the delivery driver next time we buy oil and it must be before the expiry date (obviously). I presume they cross-checked with the census we completed a few years ago which asked what our main heating source was.


Our €100 electricity cheque was credited to our account automatically.


There is quite a bit of data held by the Government here- very much a case of 'big brother is watching you'. They know exactly how many heat with oil and how much they use, so the deliveries are going to a central database. Linking that to the house, they also know the floor size in square metres (basis of the 'council tax'). As a result they can publish the annual figure of an average 20 litres per square metre.

Anke

  • Joined Dec 2009
  • St Boswells, Scottish Borders
Re: Heating oil rebate
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2023, 05:36:44 pm »
Thanks folks. I haven't missed it then... Never thought to check the citizen's advice website though... just went for the gov.uk sites and no real luck.

doganjo

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Re: Heating oil rebate
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2023, 08:32:44 pm »
I thought the Government payment was for energy in general, not specifically for electricity or gas or other heating means?

So if you have electricity shouldn't you have been getting the £67 a month for six months from October?  I have gas heating and I've been getting it.

I was under the impression you only get the oil heating payment if you haven't received the £67 per month energy grant (except it's not a grant, as they'll take it back over the next few years  :eyelashes:). 

It was only put to electricity suppliers because most people have electricity - which made it easier to distribute
« Last Edit: January 20, 2023, 08:37:11 pm by doganjo »
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Anke

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Re: Heating oil rebate
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2023, 07:32:31 am »

I was under the impression you only get the oil heating payment if you haven't received the £67 per month energy grant (except it's not a grant, as they'll take it back over the next few years  :eyelashes: ). 



No the 200 pounds for heating oil is additional to the 67 pounds you get off each month. And yes, it is not a grant....

doganjo

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Re: Heating oil rebate
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2023, 10:27:46 am »

I was under the impression you only get the oil heating payment if you haven't received the £67 per month energy grant (except it's not a grant, as they'll take it back over the next few years  :eyelashes: ). 



No the 200 pounds for heating oil is additional to the 67 pounds you get off each month. And yes, it is not a grant....
so what do Gas heating users get?
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oor wullie

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Re: Heating oil rebate
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2023, 08:39:08 pm »

I was under the impression you only get the oil heating payment if you haven't received the £67 per month energy grant (except it's not a grant, as they'll take it back over the next few years  :eyelashes: ). 



No the 200 pounds for heating oil is additional to the 67 pounds you get off each month. And yes, it is not a grant....
so what do Gas heating users get?

Gas is subject to a price cap so gas users are effectively subsidised by keeping the price artificially low.

doganjo

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Re: Heating oil rebate
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2023, 10:40:41 am »
Really?   Mine has doubled since this time last year!
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oor wullie

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Re: Heating oil rebate
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2023, 12:01:33 am »
Really?   Mine has doubled since this time last year!

Gas is capped at about 10p /kWh.

Historically the wholesale price had been 1-2p / kWh.
Since mid 2021 it has averaged about 8p / kWh and fluctuated wildly up to about 20p / kWh.

Add distribution, admin, profit etc and, without the price cap, you would be paying quite a bit more than you are now.

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Re: Heating oil rebate
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2023, 01:43:48 pm »
My Unit rate at the end of December was 14p, standing charge is 25.56p per day
Last December it was 3.6p and 22.71 per day
So no, it isn't capped and no, I don't get anything towards gas usage

So the £67 per month is to cover all energy usage

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oor wullie

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Re: Heating oil rebate
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2023, 06:48:11 am »
My Unit rate at the end of December was 14p, standing charge is 25.56p per day
Last December it was 3.6p and 22.71 per day
So no, it isn't capped and no, I don't get anything towards gas usage

So the £67 per month is to cover all energy usage
https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/information-consumers/energy-advice-households/check-if-energy-price-cap-affects-you#To%20help%20protect

Assuming you are a domestic customer in the UK your gas unit rate and standing charge are capped (according to what I found on the gov website and Ofgem)
See the above link to Ofgem.

Your gas price has gone up but it could have gone up more!

Your prices don't match those in the Ofgem link I guess because 1) prices vary across regions and 2) the cap is defined in kWh and gas meters usually read in other units (M3 or ft3).
« Last Edit: January 24, 2023, 06:53:28 am by oor wullie »

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Re: Heating oil rebate
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2023, 07:17:37 am »
ow is correct your gas price is capped .....  or you would be paying much more than you are .....  seek Martin Lewes for explaination
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/energy-price-guarantee/

with oil we have NO cap at all .... and we have to prepay when we buy .... so I grabbed half a tank in Oct at 95ppl   2 days later it was £110ppl   ......    it is a lottery and one which requires £100's pounds in advance
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chrismahon

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Re: Heating oil rebate
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2023, 09:10:35 am »
It's the same here with price capping. Electricity and gas prices rise were capped at 15% this year and people have still received energy cheques for it (means tested). Oil went from €1.07 to €1.75 a litre last February when we bought and now stands at €1.45, so our €100 cheque is a small fraction of the extra cost. They have offered a cheque for people using wood, either logs or pellets, with wood having risen from €60 to €80 a stère (cubic metre if in metre lengths) but pellets have risen from €5 to a whopping €13 a 15Kg bag, so not much help there either. Still, something is better than nothing. We are losing just as much as a result of the £ crash.

 

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