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Louise Gaunt

  • Joined May 2011
Re: bird flu
« Reply #570 on: January 28, 2017, 01:41:03 pm »
But the BBC are still leading on the risk to humans. Minor mention of DEFRA restrictions but no details - another missed opportunity to get the message out to all poultry keepers in my view, but then in my view the BBC gave up any pretence about being a public service broadcaster a long time ago.

Penninehillbilly

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • West Yorks
Re: bird flu
« Reply #571 on: January 28, 2017, 01:48:19 pm »
I think google earth is showing symbols of where outbreaks are, not sure if it's just picking up on my searching, but when I put 'pilling lancashire' it shows a symbol there and at Preston, i wonder if computer labels nearest major town as well? (Same birds in Gloucester as at the nearby Slimbridge), also wild birds at merseyside

ColinS

  • Joined Dec 2016
Re: bird flu
« Reply #572 on: January 29, 2017, 10:09:18 am »
Not sure if I posted a link to this one before:-

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/16/7/09-0389_article

Interesting tentative suggestion about different spread mechanisms for LPAI and HPAI.

Here is an article from the Sun (not perhaps the highest authority but still)...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2720987/global-spread-of-bird-flu-reaches-unprecedented-levels-raising-the-risk-of-a-human-outbreak/

in which some specialist again talking about spread by aerosol - “aerosol transmission from one infected barn to others, in some cases many miles away”. If he is right biosecurity requires air-tight barns with filtered inflow (and if you are being picky about containment, outflows) - not trivial to arrange.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2017, 01:57:11 pm by ColinS »
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Polyanya

  • Joined Mar 2015
  • Shetland
    • The Creative Croft
    • Facebook
Re: bird flu
« Reply #573 on: January 29, 2017, 05:21:44 pm »
I'm just astonished at how many of my neighbours are letting their birds free range and just because we are near a public road, although very quiet, we feel we have to keep ours in. The risks in Shetland are minimal but I can't risk being fined!
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harmony

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: bird flu
« Reply #574 on: January 29, 2017, 06:40:41 pm »


Here is an article from the Sun (not perhaps the highest authority but still)...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2720987/global-spread-of-bird-flu-reaches-unprecedented-levels-raising-the-risk-of-a-human-outbreak/

in which some specialist again talking about spread by aerosol - “aerosol transmission from one infected barn to others, in some cases many miles away”. If he is right biosecurity requires air-tight barns with filtered inflow (and if you are being picky about containment, outflows) - not trivial to arrange.


That would be the one with a picture of turkeys and underneath mentions the outbreak at the pheasant hatchery.  :innocent:

ColinS

  • Joined Dec 2016
Re: bird flu
« Reply #575 on: January 30, 2017, 09:18:06 am »
Be fair - thanks to it being by a female Sun journalist at least it's illustrated by something with its own feathers  ;D
The love of all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man - Darwin

in the hills

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: bird flu
« Reply #576 on: January 31, 2017, 07:22:44 am »
63,000 pheasants, partridges and ducks to be culled as bird flu discovered at a third linked premises in Lancashire.

Check out the 'latest' section at the bottom of the DEFRA page.


Marches Farmer

  • Joined Dec 2012
  • Herefordshire
Re: bird flu
« Reply #577 on: January 31, 2017, 09:22:41 am »
I wonder what, if any, biosecurity measures they had in place?

harmony

  • Joined Feb 2012
Re: bird flu
« Reply #578 on: January 31, 2017, 10:30:53 am »
I guess this will be part of the investigation but as I said in an earlier post the first outbreak in this area was not good. On a major river, very low lying, wet area and fields regularly grazed by hundreds of wild geese and other waterfowl.

ColinS

  • Joined Dec 2016
Re: bird flu
« Reply #579 on: February 01, 2017, 09:17:00 am »
Another article discussing the spread/infection mechanisms of H5Nx viruses.

http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2988587/deadly_bird_flu_strains_created_by_industrial_poultry_farms.html

"The virus has switched from binding specifically to receptors in waterfowl intestines to expanding to receptors found in poultry throats. That means the virus is able to infect a broader range of host species, now including the poultry global agribusiness raises in the billions."

Also shows yet again how there is little short of a punch-up going on amongst the scientists in this field.
The love of all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man - Darwin

pharnorth

  • Joined Nov 2013
  • Cambridgeshire
Re: bird flu
« Reply #580 on: February 01, 2017, 09:20:58 am »
Once 63000 birds have to be culled in one area isn't the plot well and truly lost?

Marches Farmer

  • Joined Dec 2012
  • Herefordshire
Re: bird flu
« Reply #581 on: February 01, 2017, 10:13:20 am »
Another article discussing the spread/infection mechanisms of H5Nx viruses.
http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2988587/deadly_bird_flu_strains_created_by_industrial_poultry_farms.html
"The virus has switched from binding specifically to receptors in waterfowl intestines to expanding to receptors found in poultry throats. That means the virus is able to infect a broader range of host species, now including the poultry global agribusiness raises in the billions."
Also shows yet again how there is little short of a punch-up going on amongst the scientists in this field.
Interesting ... and also the point about intensive production providing a continuous supply of young, immunologically naïve birds for the virus to infect.

madchickenlady

  • Joined Nov 2013
  • Old Newton Suffolk
Re: bird flu
« Reply #582 on: February 01, 2017, 08:24:46 pm »
One of my hens got out this morning, my fault, turned my back for a moment and she fly jumped the barrier. Got her back in after about ten minutes of chasing her round the garden  :relief: but bang goes the bio security!
Heather

Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: bird flu
« Reply #583 on: February 01, 2017, 09:09:21 pm »
I bet it's happened to everyone here one or twice!!!!

madchickenlady

  • Joined Nov 2013
  • Old Newton Suffolk
Re: bird flu
« Reply #584 on: February 01, 2017, 09:29:28 pm »
 :relief: shan't beat myself up about it then!
Heather

 

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