Author Topic: Estell is not eating  (Read 25528 times)

shep53

  • Joined Jan 2011
  • Dumfries & Galloway
Re: Estell is not eating
« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2013, 06:11:31 pm »
Sounds like pneumonia , maybe she had sub clinical pneumonia or as a result of being poorly pneumonia is getting a hold

jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: Estell is not eating
« Reply #46 on: August 24, 2013, 06:43:47 pm »
Ewww, don't like the sound of that temp and the laboured breathing. It does sound like pneumonia, in which case she needs antibiotics, Tetroxy LA is good. But I'd speak to the vet to be honest, though if she were mine and I couldn't get to a vet til tomorrow, I'd give her the Tetroxy anyway.

And she needs food. By now I think I'd be drenching her with a mixture of mainly Readybrek with molasses/syrup added and live yoghurt/rumen starter too. Make it runny. Basically make up the runny Readybrek (with water) and then add a couple of tablespoons of live yoghurt and a couple of tablespoons of syrup to about a litre (it's not an exact science). Put it in something like a washing up liquid bottle. If you can enlarge the hole and add a piece of flexible tubing so much the better, but it will work with just the bottle without the lid - just messier.

Hold her head slightly up, (easiest to do it from behind, standing astride her, facing her head end), get the bottle into the gap between her front and back teeth, make sure you stop every mouthful so she can swallow, the last thing you need is her inhaling it.

mab

  • Joined Mar 2009
  • carmarthenshire
Re: Estell is not eating
« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2013, 07:11:46 pm »
Earlier when she was moving around a lot I was trying to get as much into her as she would take, but thinngs went suddenly downhill after my last post - I went out to find her collapsed on her side, unable to rise.


made her as comfortable as I could while she panted, seemingly unable to raise her head.


After an hour she struggled to her feet (with help) and her breathing has eased slightly, but she's just moving around 1 or 2 steps at a time. her belly feels more bloated now - hence I'm wary of trying to force anything into her (though I keep offering water).


keeping a close eye on her but I'm thinking I may have to make an unpleasant decision if she goes downhill from here...

shep53

  • Joined Jan 2011
  • Dumfries & Galloway
Re: Estell is not eating
« Reply #48 on: August 24, 2013, 07:29:43 pm »
If all you have is the tetroxy l a unopened even though its out of date  , i'd consider giving her a massive  10 ml in total in 2or3 diifferent sites , sorry its not sounding good for her

mab

  • Joined Mar 2009
  • carmarthenshire
Re: Estell is not eating
« Reply #49 on: August 24, 2013, 07:33:37 pm »
Alas, she just dropped and died (at least it was quick at the end).

mab

  • Joined Mar 2009
  • carmarthenshire
Re: Estell is not eating
« Reply #50 on: August 24, 2013, 07:49:57 pm »
Of course, now I have to find a companion for my remaining sheep - she's not taking the absence of Estell well.

Bramblecot

  • Joined Jul 2008
Re: Estell is not eating
« Reply #51 on: August 24, 2013, 08:09:31 pm »
Sorry Mab  :hug: .  At least you did all you could for Estell.  Maybe it was just her time :'( .  If I lived nearer you could have one of my girls as a companion but I guess I am too far away.

mab

  • Joined Mar 2009
  • carmarthenshire
Re: Estell is not eating
« Reply #52 on: August 24, 2013, 08:31:30 pm »
Thanks bramblecot, I keep wondering if I made her worse by getting her to take more food (& steroids), though rationally I know if if she didn't eat soon she'd've died anyway.


Elfie (the other sheep) has settled a bit, but I'm still hearing the odd baa, and she's already jumped one stock fence she'd never jumped before when she went looking - I've a vague concern She'll find her way to one of the sheep neighbours before morning (or worse, hang herself on barbed wire if she tries a fence she can't clear).

Anke

  • Joined Dec 2009
  • St Boswells, Scottish Borders
Re: Estell is not eating
« Reply #53 on: August 24, 2013, 08:34:03 pm »
So sorry, but you have tried as best as you could. I think she will have had something underlying, and having stopped eating for more than two days would have taken a miracle to get her back to health...
 
Let's hope the other one is not going walk-abouts... and you should be able to get a couple of store lambs maybe quickly.. if you have sheep neighbours?

Bionic

  • Joined Dec 2010
  • Talley, Carmarthenshire
Re: Estell is not eating
« Reply #54 on: August 25, 2013, 09:16:40 am »
Marcus, so sorry to hear that Estelle didn't make it but you did everything you could for her :bouquet:
Life is like a bowl of cherries, mostly yummy but some dodgy bits

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
  • Rarely short of an opinion but I mean well
    • Trelay Cohousing Community
Re: Estell is not eating
« Reply #55 on: August 25, 2013, 09:23:31 am »
 :hug:  You really tried.  It was her time.  I hope you can find a companion for Elfie.
Don't listen to the money men - they know the price of everything and the value of nothing

Live in a cohousing community with small farm for our own use.  Dairy cows (rearing their own calves for beef), pigs, sheep for meat and fleece, ducks and hens for eggs, veg and fruit growing

mab

  • Joined Mar 2009
  • carmarthenshire
Re: Estell is not eating
« Reply #56 on: August 25, 2013, 09:29:43 am »

Thanks everyone, for the advice & support with Estell.

well I've sent word out among the neighbours - meanwhile, Elfie's making do with equine company.

Now down to the practicalities - don't suppose there's much chance of a fallenstock place open on a bank holiday  ::)  .

Bionic

  • Joined Dec 2010
  • Talley, Carmarthenshire
Re: Estell is not eating
« Reply #57 on: August 25, 2013, 10:55:32 am »


Now down to the practicalities - don't suppose there's much chance of a fallenstock place open on a bank holiday  ::)  .
I doubt it. The one at Lampeter (Douglas Bros) has an answerphone so you could leave a message. that may be the best you are going to get I think. I don't know if you have anyone nearer though.
If you want to try Douglas their number is 01570 422310
Life is like a bowl of cherries, mostly yummy but some dodgy bits

Pedwardine

  • Joined Feb 2012
  • South Lincolnshire
Re: Estell is not eating
« Reply #58 on: August 25, 2013, 11:14:07 am »
So sorry hon. You did all you could  :hug:

mab

  • Joined Mar 2009
  • carmarthenshire
Re: Estell is not eating
« Reply #59 on: August 25, 2013, 11:44:33 am »
Thanks - though I was lying awake last night thinking of what I could have tried/ should have done  ::)  too late now!


Thanks for that no. Bionic  :thumbsup:  ; the places I'd found no.s for were closed for the weekend (where are you supposed to find them in the yellow pgs anyway??), so I was surprised when I got an answer from Douglas, but they're coming tomorrow am, which is a relief - I was thinking she'd be here till Tues at the earliest.

 

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