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jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: calling all Shetland Colouration experts................
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2012, 08:54:45 pm »
Yes, there are various 'modifiers', just to confuse the issue further  :D

And if you think this is bad, or you want a brain-workout, try chicken plumage  :surrender:
« Last Edit: August 12, 2012, 08:56:53 pm by jaykay »

Mallows Flock

  • Joined Apr 2012
  • Shepton mallet
    • Somerset Pet Sitting and Dog Walking
Re: calling all Shetland Colouration experts................
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2012, 09:22:58 pm »
That is very very similar to what her fleece looked like a month or so ago colour-wise but not as long!!!!!!!
I have photos of her dad...one when he was a youngster and one which is only a head shot....will hunt it out and post it in a mo!!!
This is all fascinating stuff!!!
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Mallows Flock

  • Joined Apr 2012
  • Shepton mallet
    • Somerset Pet Sitting and Dog Walking
Re: calling all Shetland Colouration experts................
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2012, 09:28:34 pm »
Right... here are 2 photos of him when he was about 10 months old....
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Mallows Flock

  • Joined Apr 2012
  • Shepton mallet
    • Somerset Pet Sitting and Dog Walking
Re: calling all Shetland Colouration experts................
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2012, 09:32:53 pm »
This is the mum this April (aged 4) and the lamb in question when she was a couple of weeks old. Her nose only got that white ring round it during gestation...then it goes again not long after!!!
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kanisha

  • Joined Dec 2007
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Re: calling all Shetland Colouration experts................
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2012, 10:41:37 pm »
I am no expert on shetland patterns ( ouessants are a lot simpler) but it looks to me as if the lamb is grey and the dad almost looks like there is blue ( I didn't think shetlands had blue pattern?) maybe grey and Katmoget?
« Last Edit: August 12, 2012, 11:27:37 pm by kanisha »
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jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: calling all Shetland Colouration experts................
« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2012, 03:00:44 am »
Dad is a grey katmoget, which makes sense from his pedigree. It's sort of palely expressed - the suggestion is that there's a 'pale katmoget' gene as well as a 'katmoget' ones, so perhaps he's that. Certainly he's not as definitely marked as my grey katmogets.

Mum is showing a 'katmollet' face there - genetically I have no idea what that is, neither has the paper I was reading.

The lamb looks like a grey katmoget, but with her dad's paler version of it. See how she's darker underneath. But that's not quite right as she has her mum's katmollet face......

Here's my uncomplicatedly-grey-katmoget as a newborn lamb
« Last Edit: August 13, 2012, 03:05:19 am by jaykay »

Mallows Flock

  • Joined Apr 2012
  • Shepton mallet
    • Somerset Pet Sitting and Dog Walking
Re: calling all Shetland Colouration experts................
« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2012, 10:10:27 am »
LOL... so basically, I just have complicated sheep...that figures! LOL!
I will get a good close up picture of lambkin (Ursula) and a picture deep into her fleece. This is fascinating but very confusing!
 
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Crofterloon

  • Joined Mar 2012
  • Mintlaw
Re: calling all Shetland Colouration experts................
« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2012, 04:33:16 pm »
I had a fawn katmoget it was light on top but fawn underneath. Different to yours.
The Grey is light grey on top black underneath.
 
 

colliewoman

  • Joined Jul 2011
  • Pilton
  • Caution! May spontaneously talk rabbits!
Re: calling all Shetland Colouration experts................
« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2012, 05:45:05 pm »
Apparently "splodgy" is not approved terminology either  :innocent:




Fleckett?




I just love the name for that marking type!

We'll turn the dust to soil,
Turn the rust of hate back into passion.
It's not water into wine
But it's here, and it's happening.
Massive,
but passive.


Bring the peace back

colliewoman

  • Joined Jul 2011
  • Pilton
  • Caution! May spontaneously talk rabbits!
Re: calling all Shetland Colouration experts................
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2012, 05:47:30 pm »
You need to go see Mrs B over the ford ;)


She had for a long time, moorit katmogets and greys, plus a host of other varieties :love:


She managed to ID the markings of my odd lamb. Turned out to be moget faced which I had never heard of!
We'll turn the dust to soil,
Turn the rust of hate back into passion.
It's not water into wine
But it's here, and it's happening.
Massive,
but passive.


Bring the peace back

jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: calling all Shetland Colouration experts................
« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2012, 06:15:50 pm »
I think one of my katmogets is really mogget-faced, ie the pattern only shows on the face and she's not a different colour underneath

Mallows Flock

  • Joined Apr 2012
  • Shepton mallet
    • Somerset Pet Sitting and Dog Walking
Re: calling all Shetland Colouration experts................
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2012, 10:05:43 pm »
You need to go see Mrs B over the ford ;)


She had for a long time, moorit katmogets and greys, plus a host of other varieties :love:


She managed to ID the markings of my odd lamb. Turned out to be moget faced which I had never heard of!
Don... the mother of all my lambs are Mrs B's bred ewe's.... I have emailed her pics. She thinks the fawn katmogets/Moorit katmogets will be grey as loads of hers start out brown but lose it and turn grey.
I am gonna take the black faced/blacked legged ones over to her after the show to see if she can decipher her colouration. I try and avoid Mrs B tbh.... everytime our paths cross I end up poorer money-wise but richer Shetland flock-size wise! Hahaha! I really MUST close my flock but I keep seeing more little fleecy-gorgeousnesses that want to come home with me. My name is Lisa and I am a sheepaholic!
From 3 to 30 and still flocking up!

colliewoman

  • Joined Jul 2011
  • Pilton
  • Caution! May spontaneously talk rabbits!
Re: calling all Shetland Colouration experts................
« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2012, 10:17:32 pm »
Where do you think my guys came form???


I thought that might be where yours were from, she breeds such a lovely 'type'. I used to help her out and graze my first sheep with her when her flock numbered in the hundreds and never saw such pattern/colour combinations :love: :love:
We'll turn the dust to soil,
Turn the rust of hate back into passion.
It's not water into wine
But it's here, and it's happening.
Massive,
but passive.


Bring the peace back

Mallows Flock

  • Joined Apr 2012
  • Shepton mallet
    • Somerset Pet Sitting and Dog Walking
Re: calling all Shetland Colouration experts................
« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2012, 10:47:20 pm »
LOL... she said you had helped her in the past... I can just imagine the pair of you... as mad as a box of frogs! LOL! She is really lovely... always has a mug of coffee on offer and its lovely to see a sheep 'farmer' who adores each and every one of her sheep. And her place is gorgeous.
I keep telling her we need a pair of handsome, fit, DIY experts to do all the chores we can't do/hate doing i.e fencing! LOL!
 
From 3 to 30 and still flocking up!

Mallows Flock

  • Joined Apr 2012
  • Shepton mallet
    • Somerset Pet Sitting and Dog Walking
Re: calling all Shetland Colouration experts................
« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2012, 10:55:37 pm »
Dad is a grey katmoget, which makes sense from his pedigree. It's sort of palely expressed - the suggestion is that there's a 'pale katmoget' gene as well as a 'katmoget' ones, so perhaps he's that. Certainly he's not as definitely marked as my grey katmogets.

Mum is showing a 'katmollet' face there - genetically I have no idea what that is, neither has the paper I was reading.

The lamb looks like a grey katmoget, but with her dad's paler version of it. See how she's darker underneath. But that's not quite right as she has her mum's katmollet face......

Here's my uncomplicatedly-grey-katmoget as a newborn lamb

I want that lamb!!!!  ;D
From 3 to 30 and still flocking up!

 

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