[Dogwalker]

How does it cause a colour change so quickly, surely once hair has grown it can't change, it's only the root that's alive.

[Penninehillbilly]

Well, I've started my 2 off slowly, one seems happy to eat up, the other is definatley playing about with her food, but eats most of it, the other gets to clean up, too early and low amounts to see anything yet. the kids are fussy anyway, always some bits left in their tubs.
I'll try with some carrots, they love them.
does the smell go off without losing goodness if it is left open to the air for a while?

[wytsend]

There are several elements that will change hair colour but COPPER is the chief culprit.

One of the biggest symptoms is black hair having a brownish tinge sometimes worse than that.   The other, particularly in horses with black heads, is a lighter ring round the eye  known as toad eye.
Because a lot of goats have white around the eyes it often goes unnoticed.

Yes you are right it is the root that is alive.... but if an animal is short of essential elements it will rob the hair first..... the hair is the first to be restored in colour when the balance is better.


This is why so many people are seeing changes in their goats ...... most of the UK is short of a lot of essential minerals particularly copper,  but also a number of areas are high in molybdenum which PREVENTS copper uptake from the soil.

[Dogwalker]

I can understand how it would restore the balance and improve colour for the new hair growth but people seem to be reporting a faster change or have some people been feeding the supplement a lot longer.
I'd have thought it would take several weeks for new hair growth to show a change.

[wytsend]

Changes can be very quick.... colour pigmentation is very volatile.


My Grandfather lost all his hair colour in 24hrs during the First World War !!!!!

All livestock are the same .... if their systems are under stress for whatever reason,  colour pigmentation is usually the first to go.

[colliewoman]

I noticed the colour difference in Enid start within the first week, the longer the supplement is given, the deeper the colour changes. How it works so quickly is beyond me as I was expecting to see a change with the next moult but there ya go!

[Hatty]

also hair will refract colour up the shaft of the hair, so if the change is at the root of pale hairs these can appear darker,

[Lesley Silvester]

Having Sanaans, I don't expect to see a colour difference.   

[goosepimple]

I heard they go green and hairy...

[Hatty]

surely thats a gooseberry 

[Lesley Silvester]

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I heard they go green and hairy...

  Depends what they've been lying in.
 

surely thats a gooseberry 

  You could be right there. 

[chickenfeed]

thanks jane recieved ours the goats soon woofed it down (only tried it on the milkers).

mum did phone and talk to someone at the production end with a couple of points.

1. this time of year the milk yeild goes down and the fats go up (according to her milk recording) so would be better tested in the spring/summer.

2. she saw no changes in any of the goats but has put that down to only having enough for a couple of days so she has asked to be informed when it hits the market to see if there are any changes over a longer period of time.

she already uses the company for other items so she is looking forward to having a proper trial, anything that helps the goats is always welcomed by her.

[Roxy]

Well, the two milkers have not changed colour as such ....but their coats are definitely looking better even after only a week on the powder, and we have had an increase in milk too.  I am sure there would be definite changes if they were on it long term.

I do have one question though ....the powder does smell strong, and some goats are fussy.  I mixed mine with their sugar beet, but not everyone uses this, so the powder could get left at the bottom of the bucket by some clever goats!!! 

I just wondered if its possible to make it into a pellet form, and it may be easier to feed?

[wytsend]

Bear in mind this was the first  'mix'..... the strong smell is salmon oil  which we are looking to replace with something less 'strong'.... so don't worry about that.

I must admit all my fussy ones eat the mix very freely .... they took about 2 weeks to settle.

We are pressing Denis Brinicombe very strongly to manufacture for a full year so that everybody will have a chance to make they own evaluations....... can I ask everybody who has had a sample to ring them today or tomorrow/ as soon as you can(!)   to repeat this request for a year in production.

Only with a weight of request ,  will this mix go into their New Products Range...  I know it works  but then I had the advantage of testing in the summer.

The phone number is   01363 775115  & ask for Kym

[Lesley Silvester]

I too would like a longer trial.  I had three days worth so too soon to notice much difference.  What I did notice was that my young girl who is suckling her kid, had more milk on the two occasions I got there before him.  I will be letting them know.  Just thought I'd see how tonight's milking went one day after their last dose.