If I had pictures of the ewes I would think most people would class them as light phase. I would agree that maybe due to the dark hair the rams would be classed more to the dark side?
Kanisha I would agree if the light patches were fleece, but these rams really do have a lot of hair and when I had them in the pens the light patches were hair . I was told by the breeder that the main and saddle patches don't come in fully in till they are 3-4years!
I purchased 10 yearling rams that i intend to run on to see how they develop in coat and colour.