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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
    • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #870 on: July 10, 2017, 10:23:08 am »
Some of this years Meat birds enjoying the sunshine.

It will be the last week for some of them.
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Charlie1234

  • Joined Feb 2017
    • Powys
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #871 on: July 10, 2017, 11:48:44 am »
Nice looking birds dave  :thumbsup:
I havent seen mine for a while now so will be due a visit shortly,might even bring them home this week.

As we have  shared birds/eggs this season it will be interesting next year to see if the outcomes are similar.

I have been offered an asil from a mate down south and he is a monster..29" tall + 12.9Lb in weight so I was playing with the idea of crossing him with something but I dont need the hassle of him getting out + meeting the young IG Cockerels..would not end well

Also any opinions on putting a show quality IG back into the mix for more size but keeping the better legs of our birds ? I know of a guy with cannonball IG as he calls them so debating on buying 2 hens to run with 1 of my young cockerels.
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
    • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #872 on: July 10, 2017, 02:35:08 pm »
Would make an interesting experiment mate.

You could set up an extra pen, then compare the out cross chicks weights against the birds from me as a standard.
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
    • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #873 on: July 10, 2017, 03:20:37 pm »
Few better pics.
They will be 14 weeks this week.
Here are a few pics of this batch before there off to freezer camp.

I'm keeping all the Pullets again for next years breeding and laying.
The Slow Sasso Pullets have a salmon colour.






The Pullet in front is the only one showing the dwarf gene.




Slow x Intermediate Sasso red Pullet & Cockerel
Like last years the Intermediate Cockerels have bad movement.



Slow Sasso Cockerel
Nice bird but again his movement isn't as free as I like in a breeder.



Slow Sasso Cockerel
Finally the chosen one for next years breeding.



I'm also trying to keep his dad going until next year as well.
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Charlie1234

  • Joined Feb 2017
    • Powys
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #874 on: July 12, 2017, 03:02:31 pm »
The chosen one looks good  Dave :thumbsup:
I have narrowed my keepers down to 3 so getting there slowly.
Spoken with the guy today RE: The show I.G. few pictures being sent to me later today/tomorrow then a trip out next week if Iam impressed. I will post the pics on here for all to have a look at before I commit.

Geese have now sold so a bit of spare room for the cuckoo marans to go once I get a small coop for them.
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macgro7

  • Joined Feb 2016
    • Leicester
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #875 on: July 12, 2017, 08:27:22 pm »
My Bresse have hatched! It will be interesting comparing their growth to the Barbezieux.
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
    • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #876 on: July 12, 2017, 10:38:23 pm »
Yes very interesting mate.
What ages have you weighed the barbezieux?

How are they doing?
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macgro7

  • Joined Feb 2016
    • Leicester
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #877 on: July 15, 2017, 12:53:56 pm »
Quote from: Dave C on July 12, 2017, 10:38:23 pm
Yes very interesting mate.
What ages have you weighed the barbezieux?

How are they doing?
I haven't actually weighed them yet.
Already notice differences between bresse and Barbezieux. Black ones were a lot more flighty in the brooder. Difficult to grab as very fast. White ones seem to be more tame.

Muscovies hatched! 13 ducklings out of 14 eggs! Really good results! Mixture of White, black and white and blue and white
« Last Edit: July 15, 2017, 01:21:04 pm by macgro7 »
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Charlie1234

  • Joined Feb 2017
    • Powys
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #878 on: July 15, 2017, 03:25:20 pm »


Muscovies hatched! 13 ducklings out of 14 eggs! Really good results! Mixture of White, black and white and blue and white
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Nice one mate  :thumbsup:
Plenty of lunches if you`ve got a few drakes.

Mine never hatched,part grew in egg + died. never had any temperature or humidity problems.
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
    • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #879 on: July 15, 2017, 03:59:34 pm »
Good hatch macgro7  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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macgro7

  • Joined Feb 2016
    • Leicester
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #880 on: July 15, 2017, 04:22:24 pm »
Yup. I told you they are much more difficult to hatch in the incubator. My ones hatch under muscovy broody. She used to leave them for couple of hours go to eat swim etc. When she started sitting there were 9 eggs and she ended up laying 14!
Muscovies are really weird lol
But they taste nice!
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
    • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #881 on: July 15, 2017, 07:51:41 pm »
Look at these little Tanks that have just hatched.

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Charlie1234

  • Joined Feb 2017
    • Powys
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #882 on: July 16, 2017, 09:45:27 pm »
They are some chunky chicks arent they.
The pictures I have of the trio iam getting are not very good so I will put some on once I collect them Tuesday. :excited:
Bloke phoned and told me he has some drinkers,feeders,grit,feed etc I can take.
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snowyriver

  • Joined Dec 2012
    • Montgomeryshire
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #883 on: July 17, 2017, 11:59:30 pm »
Quote from: Dave C on July 15, 2017, 07:51:41 pm
Look at these little Tanks that have just hatched.
The ones I hatched from the same eggs were also big and strong at day old, but now at 7 months old it's all frame and absolutely no meat, which isn't what I expected. I kept the heaviest cockerel at 3 months old and dispatched the rest as I couldn't see them being much good for meat yield. Maybe by now he would have a different stock cockerel in with the breeding group.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2017, 12:01:06 am by snowyriver »
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
    • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #884 on: July 18, 2017, 08:07:45 pm »
Yes I can imagine them being a bit disappointing but that's most duel purpose breeds, I got them mainly for the eggs but his stock did look nice chunky birds.
The hens I have are a good size with decent breast meat so I will try to improve them over a few years and see what I can do, I'll be taking mine at about 5 months so hopefully they won't eat me out of house & home, but I do find the Marans very tasty.

I'm not too bothered really as I have my Sasso and IG for meat birds and the Sasso x Marans are proving worth while.
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