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Dave C

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  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #90 on: July 05, 2016, 07:24:30 pm »
Hi Dave

I also have slow growing Sasso chicks. They are 6 weeks old now and I have noticed in the last week that some of them are getting bloated crops.

Is that something that you are experiencing as well?

Thanks
Shari

Hi Shari, no I have had no problems with mine I'm also impressed that I haven't had to restrict food from them, mine are Sasso T551 (Gallic) and my chicks are Sasso X431A ( Farm Rangers) what type are yours ?

Are they bloated all the time or just after eating and are they eating ok or off there food?
Also are all of them suffering or just 1 or 2 ?
Could there be an obstruction in there or maybe eaten some long grass they can't digest ?

Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #91 on: July 05, 2016, 07:35:38 pm »
I have some birds entered I. Yorkshire show
I was thinking something different with utilities I.e staying away from show standard if you get what I mean

The Muscovy males are considerably bigger which you probably already know
And will reach a 2-3kg at 16 weeks
50% less fat than an Aylesbury duck at same age

Yeah a Utility type show would be good, I'm not into showing but would enjoy that.
What have you got entered in the GYS ?

I've flirted with the idea of ducks and geese as I have too much grass this time of year them Muscovies sound tasty so maybe an idea for next year, I haven't done any pigs this year which has been a big miss and I'm adding Lambs next years so plenty of meat in the freezer to come  :excited:

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

  • Joined Oct 2014
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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #92 on: July 05, 2016, 09:37:56 pm »
My main breed I am taking are silver kraienkoppe bantams they do pretty well at shows they have won a best rare in show the other year and got placed on another occasion.

I have just got 2 acres of land and should have some ryelands by end of month
Excited about it
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #93 on: July 05, 2016, 10:36:11 pm »
Oh Ryelands are nice I think if I was breeding that would be my choice  :thumbsup:
Mine will be early spring lambs and in the freezer by October.

Don't think I've seen a bantam Silver Kraienkoppe  :thinking:
But I know the LF look a good meaty bird with a strong stature, would be an interesting addition to your meat project.

Ps, they are also beautiful birds  :thumbsup:


Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #94 on: July 05, 2016, 10:38:39 pm »
Oh Ryelands are nice I think if I was breeding that would be my choice  :thumbsup: sounds very exciting.
Mine will be early spring lambs and in the freezer by October as I don't want to keep them over the winter.

Don't think I've seen a bantam Silver Kraienkoppe  :thinking:
But I know the LF look a good meaty bird with a strong stature, would be an interesting addition to your meat project.

Ps, they are also beautiful birds  :thumbsup:

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #95 on: July 06, 2016, 09:54:46 pm »
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #96 on: July 06, 2016, 09:55:36 pm »
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #97 on: July 07, 2016, 01:39:52 pm »
There looking good Princess  :thumbsup:

Don't know what's going on with the pics on the forum, they are so small then you open them and Wow there to big , ha.

The LS look very nice types, I expected the IgxLs to look a bit gamier if you know what I mean, or is it just the pics ?

Will be weighing my Slow grow Gallic tonight when I get home.
Will post the results.

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #98 on: July 07, 2016, 01:56:41 pm »
Hi
They are growing nicely
To be fair I'm not sure how the IG x should look
But not that gamey like you say and seem to have taken on the LS stature
« Last Edit: July 07, 2016, 02:01:17 pm by Princessrubyk »
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #99 on: July 07, 2016, 06:08:58 pm »
I know the Ig X La Bresse I saw last year just looked like White IG,
The colour of yours looks similar to a cross I did a few years back, Welsummer cock over LS hens, chicks were sex linked and laid very well, the hens were brown with black heckles.
I went on to cross Welsummer X Cukhoo Marans both from very dark laying strains, again the chicks were sex linked and there eggs were fantastic and lots more than either breed laid.

Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #100 on: July 07, 2016, 06:16:30 pm »
The Sasso Gallic growers were 10 weeks yesterday.
The weight range is 2.24kg - 2.41kg that's from the 4 random birds I just cought.
With them being free range they are getting wiser each weigh in.

There faster than they look, ha.



Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #101 on: July 07, 2016, 09:26:01 pm »
Looking good Dave
When will you cull
Nice weights those
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #102 on: July 07, 2016, 09:48:18 pm »
Thanks Princess,

Well after the 8 week weigh in I was thinking of culling at 14 weeks as I was thinking they were running a little light.
But they seem to have pulled it back, so I guess in 2 or 3 weeks time.

I'm starting to look at the Cockerels as to which 2 I will keep, I have 8 to choose from and it's not easy with hybrid broilers , as heavy birds could get to big, go off there legs or just be to heavy for the lovin  :innocent:

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #103 on: July 08, 2016, 10:55:15 am »
ye will be looking on with interest
i have for hybrid cocks to ci=ull in the next 5 weeks or so

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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #104 on: July 08, 2016, 04:18:16 pm »
What type of hybrids are they ?
Are you finishing them in any particular way to fatten them ?

My chicks in the brooder are 2 weeks now and there is some huge differences in sizes, I'm looking forward too getting them outside next weekend and getting some pics.

Think these are gona be big uns.  :fc:

 

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