[doganjo]

Give me the guys address... i'll lift him by his bl**dy ears!  .
she is so lucky to have been bought by you Annie.  Congratulations to you and Belle for your success 

Joanne wanted to give her to me, but i wanted to be absolutely sure there was no way he could get her back so I bought her and registered her in my name.  He tried to get her transferred back into his name so his pups could be registered, and get a better price for them and pups they'd had.  There was NO WAY on this earth!!!!!

[Jukes Mum]

Well done! She is lovely. And "good for you" doing what you did x 

[sabrina]

Thank goodness you did get her. Hate to think what would have happened had he kept her. One of those just out for money by the sound of it.

[doganjo]

She also won the TAN Trophy 3 months after I got her (Natural Aptitude Test) from a visiting French Judge to our Club Weekend, who also gave her two 1st Excellents in the show the following day.
First photo is her on her bench at Crufts where she won Best Veteran Bitch 2 years ago, and the second is her pointing caged quail and winning the TAN in 2006

[Herdygirl]

Give me the guys address... i'll lift him by his bl**dy ears!  .
she is so lucky to have been bought by you Annie.  Congratulations to you and Belle for your success 

Joanne wanted to give her to me, but i wanted to be absolutely sure there was no way he could get her back so I bought her and registered her in my name.  He tried to get her transferred back into his name so his pups could be registered, and get a better price for them and pups they'd had.  There was NO WAY on this earth!!!!!

How could he use your name to register pups he has not bred?
I am confused???

[doganjo]

Give me the guys address... i'll lift him by his bl**dy ears!  .
she is so lucky to have been bought by you Annie.  Congratulations to you and Belle for your success 

Joanne wanted to give her to me, but i wanted to be absolutely sure there was no way he could get her back so I bought her and registered her in my name.  He tried to get her transferred back into his name so his pups could be registered, and get a better price for them and pups they'd had.  There was NO WAY on this earth!!!!!

How could he use your name to register pups he has not bred?
I am confused???

He wanted her transferred back into his name so they could be registered, didn't physically want her; but there was no guarantee he'd re-register her back to me.

[Herdygirl]

Give me the guys address... i'll lift him by his bl**dy ears!  .
she is so lucky to have been bought by you Annie.  Congratulations to you and Belle for your success 

Joanne wanted to give her to me, but i wanted to be absolutely sure there was no way he could get her back so I bought her and registered her in my name.  He tried to get her transferred back into his name so his pups could be registered, and get a better price for them and pups they'd had.  There was NO WAY on this earth!!!!!

How could he use your name to register pups he has not bred?
I am confused???

He wanted her transferred back into his name so they could be registered, didn't physically want her; but there was no guarantee he'd re-register her back to me.

I might be being a bit thick here, but are you saying that he would register any pups his bitches gave birth to as pups Belle had given birth to? Therefore using her name?

[doganjo]

No, he wanted me to transfer registration of Belle to his name even though I physically had her here.  He would then register the pups she had whelped, and he would then register her back to me - and you can believe that if you want 

Once his pups were registered he could then breed from them and their progeny could be registered.

However, since I refused point blank, her first litter could not be registered nor could any of their ensuing pups.  But he didn't lose much - instead of getting £550 a pup for  registered ones, he sold unregistered pups for £350!!!

A few of their owners came to me to ask me to do as he asked so that they could show or Field trial their dogs.

Unregistered dogs cannot be shown and cannot be Field Trialled.  They can still be worked, or do obedience or agility competitions if they go on the Activity register, but their progeny can't then be put on the breed register. 
Does that make sense now?

[Herdygirl]

aaah get you now     .  This guy seems to me to be an unscrupulous breeder who is quite happy to try and bend the rules to suit himself.  Maybe the almighty  KC should have been informed at the time, mind you they are happy for breeders to break the rules when it suits them .... the incident at Crufts this year springs to mind.
 
thanks for explaining Anne 

[doganjo]

KC couldn't have done anything - he wasn't a breeder till he found that Brittanys worked well with his Birds of prey. So they hads no jurisdiction - they still wouldn't, and until someone twigs that we really should have controlled and licensed breeding of all dogs whether purebred, cross bred or mongrels, even just for one off litters, nothing much will change.  Scoundrels will till get off with mating anything to anything regardless of health issue and getting their pocket money.

[doganjo]

Belle's Challenge certificate arrived this morning.

[doganjo]

And the certificate just arrived - confirmation that she is a Show Champion   

I have copied it and printed out new Pedigrees for all her 9 children, to send to their owners.   Thought they might like that. 

[devonlady]

Well done Bella and well done Annie