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Pets & Working Animals => Dogs => Topic started by: doganjo on May 16, 2015, 04:06:24 pm

Title: Just got to brag about this!
Post by: doganjo on May 16, 2015, 04:06:24 pm
At 11 years of age, my lovely Belle (Yarak Viola to Aberdon) was awarded her third Challenge Certificate at the Scottish Kennel Club Championship Show yesterday and thus became a Gundog Show Champion.

I am over the moon!  :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited:

She is the first Champion I have made up since bringing this breed into Scotland in 1984 - purely down to logistics and distance from all the Championship shows.  Now I have moved this is the closest - half an hour away.

I'm in the process of sending out new pedigrees to all her offspring with her Title and photographs on manilla card.  I hope their owners like them.
The photo shows my pal, Gill Tully, who came up from Lincoln specially to handle Belle for me since I had two others to run round with.  Allez won Best veteran Dog and Missy was 3rd Junior Bitch.
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Post by: sabrina on May 16, 2015, 04:56:00 pm
No wonder you are over the moon. Fab results  :excited:
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Post by: nutterly_uts on May 16, 2015, 05:55:54 pm
Fantastic achievement :) Well done :)  :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited:
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Post by: Louise Gaunt on May 16, 2015, 07:34:19 pm
Congratulations to both of you!
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Post by: Rosemary on May 16, 2015, 08:22:42 pm
Well done Team Aberdon  :thumbsup: :trophy:
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Post by: Caroline1 on May 16, 2015, 11:05:03 pm
Congrats and what lovely coat markings as well
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Post by: verdifish on May 17, 2015, 01:21:40 am
Awwwwwwwsome nesss personified ! :excited: :excited: :excited:
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Post by: Bionic on May 17, 2015, 08:08:09 am
You must be very proud of her. She looks fantastic on the photo. Well done to both of you  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Ghdp on May 17, 2015, 10:06:25 am
i think you are more than entitled to brag! She looks lovely.
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Post by: kelly58 on May 17, 2015, 10:34:20 am
You get back what you put in  :thumbsup: she is stunning ! :trophy:
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Post by: Kimbo on May 17, 2015, 06:08:37 pm
Champion Belle  :thumbsup:  :trophy:
what a beautiful girl you are. Well deserved!
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Post by: Kitchen Cottage on May 17, 2015, 07:27:58 pm
What a beautiful dog! She did do well!  ;D :thumbsup:
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Post by: doganjo on May 17, 2015, 09:45:30 pm
If I explain a few things about Belle it may be apparent why I am quite vehement on health and training issues.

My friend Joanne bred her, from her champion bitch to a French stud dog from a top kennel; their hips were scored and found to be below the breed average before the mating, and at 9 weeks the pups were sold. All seemed fine till Jo had a call from one of the owners when they were 13 months old saying Belle would be due her second season in a few months and he was going to mate her to his 'stud dog'. (It turned out he had bought a dog and two unrelated bitches - obviously a breeding combination) He 'ordered' her to remove the breeding endorsement, which she rightly refused to do, explaining that she was not yet 2 years old, and had not had her hips x-rayed nor had a health check, and that he had signed the Bill of Sale to that effect. After some effing and blinding both verbally and in writing, he had her hips done and they came back as acceptable.  The next phone call was that she had 7 puppies and the ban should now be lifted. Again Joanne refused as Belle was now only 17 months old.  After further to-ing and fro-ing he said he was going to 'get rid' of the 'stupid bitch', and refused to sell her back to Joanne.  Her nephew then contacted him and asked if he had an older dog he could work (she was apparently already trained to birds of Prey).  He agreed to sell Belle to him, and Joanne sold her to me.  When I got her as a 2 year old she was extremely nervous, particularly around men.  Even now if anyone touches her ears unexpectedly she screams, Adam had been told that part of his training regime was to lift her by her ears if she disobeyed him.
It is particularly sweet that after considerable love, nurturing, and correct gentle, and positive training, two of her three Challenge Certificates, and one of her Reserve ones were awarded by men, and that she is able to come on shoots with me as a clever and very much welcomed Brittany. 

It would give some people great pleasure to let this horrid man know what she has become, and what he has missed out on, but that isn't in my nature.

I can only say how much I love my BabyBel, and how very proud I am that she is now Sh Ch Yarak Viola to Aberdon
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Post by: Herdygirl on May 18, 2015, 09:57:07 pm
Give me the guys address... i'll lift him by his bl**dy ears!  :furious: .
she is so lucky to have been bought by you Annie.  Congratulations to you and Belle for your success  :excited:
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Post by: devonlady on May 19, 2015, 07:07:07 am
Well done Annie and Belle, she looks every inch a champion :trophy:
Title: Just got to brag about this! Confirmation from the Kennel Club
Post by: doganjo on May 19, 2015, 12:15:30 pm
Give me the guys address... i'll lift him by his bl**dy ears!  :furious: .
she is so lucky to have been bought by you Annie.  Congratulations to you and Belle for your success  :excited:
Joanne wanted to give her to me, but i wanted to be absolutely sure there was no way he could get her back so I bought her and registered her in my name.  He tried to get her transferred back into his name so his pups could be registered, and get a better price for them and pups they'd had.  There was NO WAY on this earth!!!!!
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Post by: Jukes Mum on May 19, 2015, 12:23:39 pm
Well done! She is lovely. And "good for you" doing what you did x 
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Post by: sabrina on May 19, 2015, 03:54:05 pm
Thank goodness you did get her. Hate to think what would have happened had he kept her. One of those just out for money by the sound of it.
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Post by: doganjo on May 19, 2015, 04:29:29 pm
She also won the TAN Trophy 3 months after I got her (Natural Aptitude Test) from a visiting French Judge to our Club Weekend, who also gave her two 1st Excellents in the show the following day.
First photo is her on her bench at Crufts where she won Best Veteran Bitch 2 years ago, and the second is her pointing caged quail and winning the TAN in 2006
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Post by: Herdygirl on May 20, 2015, 08:59:20 am
Give me the guys address... i'll lift him by his bl**dy ears!  :furious: .
she is so lucky to have been bought by you Annie.  Congratulations to you and Belle for your success  :excited:
Joanne wanted to give her to me, but i wanted to be absolutely sure there was no way he could get her back so I bought her and registered her in my name.  He tried to get her transferred back into his name so his pups could be registered, and get a better price for them and pups they'd had.  There was NO WAY on this earth!!!!!
How could he use your name to register pups he has not bred?
I am confused???
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Post by: doganjo on May 20, 2015, 11:30:30 pm
Give me the guys address... i'll lift him by his bl**dy ears!  :furious: .
she is so lucky to have been bought by you Annie.  Congratulations to you and Belle for your success  :excited:
Joanne wanted to give her to me, but i wanted to be absolutely sure there was no way he could get her back so I bought her and registered her in my name.  He tried to get her transferred back into his name so his pups could be registered, and get a better price for them and pups they'd had.  There was NO WAY on this earth!!!!!
How could he use your name to register pups he has not bred?
I am confused???
He wanted her transferred back into his name so they could be registered, didn't physically want her; but there was no guarantee he'd re-register her back to me.
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Post by: Herdygirl on May 21, 2015, 08:10:49 pm
Give me the guys address... i'll lift him by his bl**dy ears!  :furious: .
she is so lucky to have been bought by you Annie.  Congratulations to you and Belle for your success  :excited:
Joanne wanted to give her to me, but i wanted to be absolutely sure there was no way he could get her back so I bought her and registered her in my name.  He tried to get her transferred back into his name so his pups could be registered, and get a better price for them and pups they'd had.  There was NO WAY on this earth!!!!!
How could he use your name to register pups he has not bred?
I am confused???
He wanted her transferred back into his name so they could be registered, didn't physically want her; but there was no guarantee he'd re-register her back to me.
I might be being a bit thick here, but are you saying that he would register any pups his bitches gave birth to as pups Belle had given birth to? Therefore using her name?
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Post by: doganjo on May 21, 2015, 09:46:52 pm
No, he wanted me to transfer registration of Belle to his name even though I physically had her here.  He would then register the pups she had whelped, and he would then register her back to me - and you can believe that if you want  :innocent:

Once his pups were registered he could then breed from them and their progeny could be registered.

However, since I refused point blank, her first litter could not be registered nor could any of their ensuing pups.  But he didn't lose much - instead of getting £550 a pup for  registered ones, he sold unregistered pups for £350!!!

A few of their owners came to me to ask me to do as he asked so that they could show or Field trial their dogs.

Unregistered dogs cannot be shown and cannot be Field Trialled.  They can still be worked, or do obedience or agility competitions if they go on the Activity register, but their progeny can't then be put on the breed register. 
Does that make sense now?
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Post by: Herdygirl on May 23, 2015, 12:44:13 pm
aaah get you now  :idea:   .  This guy seems to me to be an unscrupulous breeder who is quite happy to try and bend the rules to suit himself.  Maybe the almighty  KC should have been informed at the time, mind you they are happy for breeders to break the rules when it suits them .... the incident at Crufts this year springs to mind.
 
thanks for explaining Anne  :)
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Post by: doganjo on May 23, 2015, 04:11:21 pm
KC couldn't have done anything - he wasn't a breeder till he found that Brittanys worked well with his Birds of prey. So they hads no jurisdiction - they still wouldn't, and until someone twigs that we really should have controlled and licensed breeding of all dogs whether purebred, cross bred or mongrels, even just for one off litters, nothing much will change.  Scoundrels will till get off with mating anything to anything regardless of health issue and getting their pocket money. :rant: :rant:
Title: Just got to brag about this! Official Confirmation
Post by: doganjo on June 17, 2015, 03:00:21 pm
Belle's Challenge certificate arrived this morning. :excited:
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Post by: doganjo on June 18, 2015, 06:55:11 pm
And the certificate just arrived - confirmation that she is a Show Champion  :trophy:  :relief:

I have copied it and printed out new Pedigrees for all her 9 children, to send to their owners. :thumbsup:  Thought they might like that.  :excited:
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Post by: devonlady on June 19, 2015, 08:09:44 am
Well done Bella and well done Annie :trophy: