Author Topic: How much do you charge for half a pig?  (Read 36061 times)

benthegardener

  • Joined Aug 2010
Re: How much do you charge for half a pig?
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2013, 12:25:53 pm »
You could tell your local butcher you'd like to buy half a pig from a traditional breed.


If he (she) knows there's a demand for it, maybe they'll start to support a local traditional breed farmer.






goosepimple

  • Joined May 2010
  • nr Lauder, Scottish Borders
Re: How much do you charge for half a pig?
« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2013, 12:27:01 pm »
Ooh, good idea  :thumbsup:
registered soay, castlemilk moorit  and north ronaldsay sheep, pygmy goats, steinbacher geese, muscovy ducks, various hens, lots of visiting mallards, a naughty border collie, a puss and a couple of guinea pigs

hughesy

  • Joined Feb 2010
  • Anglesey
Re: How much do you charge for half a pig?
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2013, 01:11:27 pm »
I have a new business idea now. Find people local that are selling their meat for half what it costs to produce, buy it, and sell it on for the proper price! I could make a profit from that without ever having to go out in the rain and the mud and I'd never have to moan about the price of pig feed again! Move over tesco, her I come!

Jackie 2

  • Joined May 2010
  • North Killingholme
Re: How much do you charge for half a pig?
« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2013, 05:37:54 am »
I am very saddened that within this forum there are those who choose to try and influence my life and my actions because THEY don't think what I do is right. What the hell? Who gave you the right to even comment on what I do or don't do? How dare you!!!!


It has also been suggested that I have come on here after a long absence and asked (or as was said, begging) for help and that is somehow 'not allowed'? Isn't that what this forum is about? Asking for information and help from those that do know? Anyone is welcome to any help or advice I can give. I will do this willingly and not expect anything back apart from "Hey thanks."


I didn't for one minute think that asking for help from the forum people was dependent on behaving the way some people want me to? Is that a form of payment for the help and advice received? Just asking! Or is there a little clique that thinks its better than the rest of us on here?
I bow to your greatness! hahahaha



I will though explain, although I don't HAVE to do anything......


I started this venture as a way to get 'good' food for my family and came to it very bright eyed and bushy tailed. I did all the 'right' things by getting pedigree registered stock, and the 'better' breed of  turkeys, and large chickens and a few lambs for our own consumption. Any excess I thought would sell easily.


 Hahahahaha how wrong was I?? 
We ended up buying 6 large freezers to put the meat into as I hate waste.
 I advertised everywhere, local papers, flyers, talking to people and even at my diet class I gave away joints to generate interest.
 I contacted local butchers to see if they would take some and was told that they wouldn't sell and they buy whole pigs for less than £100 direct from slaughter houses, yes the commercial pink pigs.
I even approached the local good eating house to see if the chef would buy some but no even there they use commercial pink pigs.


The market here is sown up by a very large commercial piggery. :(


I have tried selling my pork for more money and ended up putting it all in my freezers of which I now have 5 because of not wanting to waste good home grown pork.


I have a large notice on my front gates too and cant even seem to sell eggs here. I sold 2 bronze turkeys and 1 black turkey at Christmas only, the rest I put in my freezers. This year I will only raise enough for my family's needs. I didn't even sell one goose!


I love living on my smallholding, and raising pigs especially, but have now sold off 2 of the rare breeds and am concentrating only on lops as they are a bigger pig overall and after taking advice from a butcher as to which breeds sell better.


The price I now ask for my pork actually sells the EXCESS pork. I don't care if my customers sell on to others, as has been suggested, which in this area I very much doubt.
 People don't like shelling out a lump sum of money here and its classed as a poor area.


I have so far only sold in total 3 pigs, that's 6 halves, not a lot but hopefully its a start.
 Hubby did suggest that he buys a refrigerated van and sell 'down south' to see if we got more but with the price of fuel thats probably not an option.


This year I have also turned an ace into cropping food, I wont even try to sell that but will give the excess to the pensioners in my village and the pigs to avoid waste.


And as for the question about what I/we do to earn money, that, my dear, is none of your business!!!
« Last Edit: March 27, 2013, 06:08:05 am by Jackie 2 »

Jackie 2

  • Joined May 2010
  • North Killingholme
Re: How much do you charge for half a pig?
« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2013, 05:46:47 am »
and yes one freezer died on me and I lost all the frozen turkeys and geese as the others freezers were full with pork :(

Mrs Snoodles

  • Joined Aug 2012
Re: How much do you charge for half a pig?
« Reply #35 on: March 26, 2013, 07:11:01 am »
Hi Jackie,
Sorry that you feel bullied, it's really horrible - I had a touch of all that business a while back  ::).  I meant to post a few days ago but am a bit down in the dumps as I had to close up shop as I couldn' t operate in the way I wanted to anymore (I was a landless keeper).  You know your own local marketplace and it will be different from others.   I can sympathise with your commercial White pig competition - we have Blythburgh pigs this way, a top class outdoor unit that distributes widely across this region.   Excellent meat - for standard White pigs  :-J
When did you start selling?  I only ask as I have found that repeat business is really the crux of this sort of business.  People who had my halves a few years back have kept coming back, sometimes asking for larger amounts (a lady took 2 wholes from me this week).  Getting the initial business can be a struggle but it is do-able.  My orders mostly came from repeats and word of mouth (alot of friends) but I did eventually get a steady trickle from flyers and from local parish mag ads.  I'm not how much income has to do with it tbh.  The monied lot were hugely outweighed by those with alot less (a local veggie box scheme finds this the same too).     The critical factor was whether people had big enough freezers.   
It sounds like your scaling back for a bit might be the best idea, raising for what you can sell on as weaners for breeding and then others as meat.   If you are breeding each sow twice a year then I would look at having a year round advertising set up, nothing fancy but small ads in the local mags, board outside your farm etc.   
I had 5 sows with my last set up and although I am now in a tricky position of 'overselling' (had a massive sleepless nights panic mid way though) - next time (i reckon an eventual house move is down the line somewhere   :idea: ) I am still going to start off with just a couple of breeding LB sows.  slow and steady ! - a more gradual build up.   porker halves for £120, quarters £65.  I sold half sow for £150 to someone who wanted to make own sausages, cuts, bacon, hams etc themselves.  ALOT of meat there to work with!
Keep going - you obviously love it. 

Clarebelle

  • Joined Jan 2013
  • Orkney
Re: How much do you charge for half a pig?
« Reply #36 on: March 26, 2013, 07:27:26 am »
I'm glad to see Jackie's post this morning, I was worried she might have lost the confidance to express her opinion on here which would have been a shame, and downright sad tbh.

I can compltely appreciate both sides. Rare breed pork should fetch a premium and its worth the money but at the same time, if it won't sell you have to get rid of it somehow and anything is better than nothing. Also for families like my own who couldnt afford £140+ for half a pig, Jackie provides an opportunity to sample, what I'm sure, is going to be a fabulous load of meat. And once we got a taste, like Mrs Snoodles said, maybe we could find the extra to money to pay more for it next time? So for that opportunity for my family, I have to thank her.

Jackie - maybe another idea would be to advertise the halves on special offer, that way when you get repeat business people will expect a change in price already.

Jackie 2

  • Joined May 2010
  • North Killingholme
Re: How much do you charge for half a pig?
« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2013, 09:19:51 am »
Thank you Mrs Snoodles, I hope you are feeling better now?


The formite bullies don't know me if they think I would bow to pressure from people I dont even know and owe nothing to :)
I can fight back just as hard :) but was trying to be more polite than they obviously were.:)


Its a good idea about having a year round advert, I shall do that :)



I have only just started selling the pork, after two years of trying, and it seems to be travelling by word of mouth as I have a whole pig ordered (2 halves)  for next time I slaughter which is great news for me.
 Onwards and upwards eh? I do so very much love it.


Hi Clarebelle :) In an ideal world we would all get a premium price for our pork but that aint gonna happen, at least not near me. I live near Immingham in Lincs and its a very poor area with not much money to invest a lot in a half pig so the price has to be low enough to make it worth while. Most people here live hand to mouth, they just dont have spare money.


I think the price will go up as lops are bigger as the half pig so yes the price will have to go up, Im sure the customers will understand that :)


Thanks for your support ladies xx

Sbom

  • Joined Jul 2012
  • Staffordshire
Re: How much do you charge for half a pig?
« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2013, 10:32:43 am »
Just a thought  :thinking: if your selling to friends and family, what about offering an instalment scheme? So they pay you £20 a month for five months then get the pork when it's paid for and ready?

Derby_menagerie

  • Joined Jan 2012
  • Derby
Re: How much do you charge for half a pig?
« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2013, 12:03:48 pm »
I Do a meat-pack at £25, 2 joints (about 1.5kg inc. belly), 4 chops, a dozen sausages, a dozen rashers, chuck in a dozen fresh eggs, back about 10 of these easy from a pig with plenty of sausages and meat left for us. so I guess I sell half a pig for about £125, but keep the profit as sausage! This works well for me as it's not alot of money for people to put down, it fits in their freezer, and I freeze the the excess, then often sell another pack to the same person before the next pigs are ready! I'm only a hobby farmer, have a day job, but I do try and make the books balance, but the people who buy from be always feel like they are getting a good deal, I'm cheaper than the supermarket and a whole lot better!

Rosemary

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Barry, Angus, Scotland
    • The Accidental Smallholder
Re: How much do you charge for half a pig?
« Reply #40 on: March 26, 2013, 12:10:04 pm »
I Do a meat-pack at £25, 2 joints (about 1.5kg inc. belly), 4 chops, a dozen sausages, a dozen rashers, chuck in a dozen fresh eggs, back about 10 of these easy from a pig with plenty of sausages and meat left for us. so I guess I sell half a pig for about £125, but keep the profit as sausage! This works well for me as it's not alot of money for people to put down, it fits in their freezer, and I freeze the the excess, then often sell another pack to the same person before the next pigs are ready! I'm only a hobby farmer, have a day job, but I do try and make the books balance, but the people who buy from be always feel like they are getting a good deal, I'm cheaper than the supermarket and a whole lot better!

This seems like a good idea - a half pig can be a bit daunting for folk. We sell it as £/kg, since I'm hopeless at working out how much pig meat there will be  ;D


Fowgill Farm

  • Joined Feb 2009
Re: How much do you charge for half a pig?
« Reply #41 on: March 26, 2013, 12:15:52 pm »
Jackie
thank you for your explanation, if you had told us this in the first place we may not have been so quick to jump on you, but you chose to get on your high horse.
Now we understand your plight living in a deprived area like immingham we can understand your trouble in selling at a higher price.
best of luck
mandy :pig:

Jackie 2

  • Joined May 2010
  • North Killingholme
Re: How much do you charge for half a pig?
« Reply #42 on: March 26, 2013, 01:48:20 pm »
Thank you Derby that's a great idea :)


Fowgill Farm why should I have had to explain so that you and others dont jump on me?


On my high horse? I think you will find that I was defending myself and my actions, but again you try to make it MY fault and you abdicate responsibility for what you post!!!


I didn't, and don't  have to explain anything to anyone and neither does anyone else on this forum  and I suggest you and others of your ilk stop jumping on other posters so quick and being so very judgmental.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2013, 06:13:13 am by Jackie 2 »

Jackie 2

  • Joined May 2010
  • North Killingholme
Re: How much do you charge for half a pig?
« Reply #43 on: March 26, 2013, 01:56:27 pm »
Sbom thank you but its not to family :)

bloomer

  • Joined Aug 2010
  • leslie, fife
  • i have chickens, sheep and opinions!!!
Re: How much do you charge for half a pig?
« Reply #44 on: March 26, 2013, 02:04:54 pm »





This is a last warning to everyone, play nice or we will lock the thread.


I believe both sides of the argument have merit so it can run for now but keep it civil please!!!

 

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