or why not try a rare breeds farm park (they usually have other breeds too besides rare ones) and they are likely to be well handled goaties. At the Carlisle auction recently Walby Farm Park (carlisle area) were selling Alpine goats. Watch out for non rare breed parks though, our first were from a 'family park' and they were very nervous and were climbing the walls, a nightmare to catch and deal with, after 2 years of trying with them we sold them to a different 'family park'. We do like goats though and bought some registered pygmy goats as fun really, but now looking for something a bit more 'serious', due to get some Bagot rare breeds any day now but won't get much milk from them, just like them.