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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
    • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #420 on: December 06, 2016, 05:27:04 pm »
Taped it, will watch it tonight  :thumbsup:
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macgro7

  • Joined Feb 2016
    • Leicester
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #421 on: December 06, 2016, 05:29:23 pm »
Just came back from work. Will watch it on Iplayer!

Just thought about something - have you considered breeding meat birds from a shamo cock?
They do have proper wide breasts. I had aseel cockerel once for dinner. Breast meat looked like broiler!
That's how indian game were created - people started crossing oriental game cocks with local hens in Cornwall. Instead of getting good fighter they got a brilliant meat bird!
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
    • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #422 on: December 06, 2016, 07:06:33 pm »
There was a guy on some forum crossing Shamo with Copper black Marans, they looked the ugliest birds I've ever seen  :roflanim: but did seem to have decent breast meat.
 hayho if they taste good  :thumbsup:

You looking for some more Dorking pal ?
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macgro7

  • Joined Feb 2016
    • Leicester
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #423 on: December 06, 2016, 07:07:50 pm »
I'd love to get some dorking but don't really know where to look?
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
    • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #424 on: December 06, 2016, 07:28:55 pm »
Got any decent poultry marts near you? Good time to find some.

Will keep my eyes open for you pal.
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
    • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #425 on: December 06, 2016, 07:49:46 pm »
Some interesting reading about utility Dorking

http://www.englishhens.co.uk/
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macgro7

  • Joined Feb 2016
    • Leicester
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #426 on: December 06, 2016, 07:53:33 pm »
Quote from: Dave C on December 06, 2016, 07:28:55 pm
Got any decent poultry marts near you? Good time to find some.

Will keep my eyes open for you pal.
I'm near melton mowbray. Which is the biggest livestock market I know actually. Really lucky to be near.
The problem is I work Monday to Friday now. The market is on Tuesday morning...
Used to go every week!
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

  • Joined Oct 2014
    • leeds
  • Bramham flock Wiltshire Horns
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #427 on: December 08, 2016, 02:10:25 pm »
culled one of my muscovies last night found the process tough alot of pin feathers
i should have culled 4 weeks ago to be fair
think i would need a plucker of some sort or time it right for when there wings come through
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macgro7

  • Joined Feb 2016
    • Leicester
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #428 on: December 08, 2016, 05:50:45 pm »
Muscovies seem to be the most difficult to pluck. Apparently they have not two but THREE layers of feathers!
They are worth it though!
I'm planning to do sausages from last year's drake. Plenty of meat on him!
Just waiting for the new mincer lol
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TracyC

  • Joined Aug 2016
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #429 on: December 12, 2016, 02:08:51 pm »
Hi there, we're new to our smallholding as of this year.  We're buying 40 day old Ross Cobbs early next year to raise for meat birds.  We have layers too but they are separate.  Ideally we hope to be self sufficient in them by the middle of next year, so I thought this was a great thread to post on.
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
    • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #430 on: December 12, 2016, 02:23:58 pm »
Hi Tracy, yes post away  :thumbsup:

There is nothing better than Ross cob for converting food to meat and you will have plenty of chicken dinners next year that's for sure, but they are not what you would class as self sustaining!

Are you looking to breed from them?

They are the end result of various hybrid crosses and are not created to be bred from as they become too large for their legs to carry them, but people have done it with an extreme controlled diet.
It also keeps you going back to the suppliers.

What's your plans?
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

  • Joined Oct 2014
    • leeds
  • Bramham flock Wiltshire Horns
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #431 on: December 12, 2016, 02:27:54 pm »
welcome aboard

be interesting to hear you plans

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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
    • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #432 on: December 12, 2016, 02:29:25 pm »
Quote from: macgro7 on December 08, 2016, 05:50:45 pm
Muscovies seem to be the most difficult to pluck. Apparently they have not two but THREE layers of feathers!
They are worth it though!
I'm planning to do sausages from last year's drake. Plenty of meat on him!
Just waiting for the new mincer lol

Are you wanting to keep the skin or could you just skin them?
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

  • Joined Oct 2014
    • leeds
  • Bramham flock Wiltshire Horns
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #433 on: December 12, 2016, 03:22:51 pm »
Ye think i am going to skin them next time
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macgro7

  • Joined Feb 2016
    • Leicester
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #434 on: December 12, 2016, 03:44:41 pm »
Quote from: Dave C on December 12, 2016, 02:29:25 pm
Quote from: macgro7 on December 08, 2016, 05:50:45 pm
Muscovies seem to be the most difficult to pluck. Apparently they have not two but THREE layers of feathers!
They are worth it though!
I'm planning to do sausages from last year's drake. Plenty of meat on him!
Just waiting for the new mincer lol

Are you wanting to keep the skin or could you just skin them?
I'm gonna skin the muscovies but pluck the geese
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