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Dave C

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #150 on: July 17, 2016, 09:24:59 pm »
Looking a nice shape pal  :thumbsup:
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #151 on: July 18, 2016, 09:06:50 am »
there weighed in again last night

spreadsheet attactched


1105 is still the top bird although others are now gaining more weight per week
i also got a feeling that 1105 is actually a pullet but again a bit early to tell if this is confirmed then it throws some questions up

1100 and 1101 are also growing really well

the LS x IG are starting to catch up
they are currently eating around 1.25kg per day between them so roughly 100gs per day
over the week that ratio would be 1:3 WEIGHT TO FEED CONSUMPTION
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Dave C

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #152 on: July 18, 2016, 04:17:46 pm »
Interesting results  :thumbsup:

I would say if all your IGxLS are brown they are all pullets, but only if they are crossed with the IG being the cock bird as they will be sex linked.
Any males would be white.

Would be interesting if the 1105 is a Pullet.
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #153 on: July 18, 2016, 04:27:48 pm »
FROM WHAT I CAN GATHER AND SPEAKING TO THE BREEDER I GOT THEM FROM THE
MALES IN THE IGX WHERE A BUFF COLOUR AND THE FEMALES HAD A DISTINCTIVE STRIPE DOWN THE HEAD A BIT LIKE THE LEGBARS
THAY ARE ALL BROWN BUT THREE HAVE DARK AROUND THERE NECK FEATHERS AND SOME DONT

THAT WAS HOW THEY HATCHED AND SO FITS INTO WHAT HE WAS SAYING

I WILL GET SOME PICTURES TONIGHT AND POST THEM ON HERE
THEY ARE STARTING TO GET THE SHAPE OF IG
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #154 on: July 18, 2016, 09:24:45 pm »
10 weeks
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #155 on: July 18, 2016, 09:28:39 pm »
IG X
Male at back female front
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Dave C

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #156 on: July 19, 2016, 06:31:03 pm »
If the Cock bird used was a Dark IG then crossed with a LS (silver hen) you would get sex linked chicks ie, males white, hens brown.
So wonder what's happened there then  :thinking: maybe the IG wasn't pure or could have been a Jubilee.

Anyway doesn't matter they look good strong stock  :thumbsup:
And the LS look nice big utility type.
Nice dark heckles as well  :thumbsup:

Are you still looking to process at 17-20 weeks ?
And what weight are you looking for?
 
« Last Edit: July 19, 2016, 06:33:51 pm by Dave C »
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #157 on: July 19, 2016, 10:43:13 pm »
You know
What I think they are actually from a jubilee but couldn't be 100 percent

Yes I'm really impressed with the LS to be fair
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #158 on: July 19, 2016, 10:45:31 pm »
Quote from: Dave C on July 19, 2016, 06:31:03 pm
If the Cock bird used was a Dark IG then crossed with a LS (silver hen) you would get sex linked chicks ie, males white, hens brown.
So wonder what's happened there then  :thinking: maybe the IG wasn't pure or could have been a Jubilee.

Anyway doesn't matter they look good strong stock  :thumbsup:
And the LS look nice big utility type.
Nice dark heckles as well  :thumbsup:

Are you still looking to process at 17-20 weeks ?
And what weight are you looking for?
Yes I am
Still looking at 17-20 weeks and looking for around 3.5k live weight maybe a little more
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #159 on: July 19, 2016, 10:46:33 pm »
Can't you list the equipment you use and the method you use when cull

What type of knifes etc

Please
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Dave C

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #160 on: July 20, 2016, 09:55:26 pm »
Quote from: Princessrubyk on July 19, 2016, 10:45:31 pm
Quote from: Dave C on July 19, 2016, 06:31:03 pm
If the Cock bird used was a Dark IG then crossed with a LS (silver hen) you would get sex linked chicks ie, males white, hens brown.
So wonder what's happened there then  :thinking: maybe the IG wasn't pure or could have been a Jubilee.

Anyway doesn't matter they look good strong stock  :thumbsup:
And the LS look nice big utility type.
Nice dark heckles as well  :thumbsup:

Are you still looking to process at 17-20 weeks ?
And what weight are you looking for?
Yes I am
Still looking at 17-20 weeks and looking for around 3.5k live weight maybe a little more

That would be a good result  :thumbsup: will be interesting if there weight gain continues at the same rate or begins to fluctuate.
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
    • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #161 on: July 20, 2016, 10:03:44 pm »
Quote from: Princessrubyk on July 19, 2016, 10:46:33 pm
Can't you list the equipment you use and the method you use when cull

What type of knifes etc

Please

If you google "butchering a chicken" in Utube you will get better information that off me, ha.
I normally only process once or twice a year so am pretty slow   :innocent:

I use the broomstick method for dispatch.
I dip in hot water before plucking and use surgical gloves for better grip.

The only tools I use are Kitchen shears for taking off the head and shortening the neck at the end.
The only other tool I use is a sharp Fillet knife.

I'm doing mine either this weekend or early next week so will tell you better then.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2016, 10:05:41 pm by Dave C »
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #162 on: July 20, 2016, 10:11:06 pm »
Ye will keep an eye out on the weights if I still think they are gaining well I may leave them but if starts to level off then will start to finish them

I've watched plenty of videos on YouTube

Do you hang yours at all

I have 4 to do next week not expecting much off these mind

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Dave C

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #163 on: July 20, 2016, 10:33:47 pm »
Yeah if the weight levels off it will give you the best time to process.
That's the problem when folk don't regularly weigh their birds it's all guess work.

Yes I kill and hang to let them bleed long enough to have a cup off tea then start plucking.

Got a mate who is a game dealer
Gona cheat and Try to use his plucker  :fc:
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #164 on: July 20, 2016, 10:56:31 pm »
I was planning on building one
Maybe use old washer or dryer drum
I was tempted to buy one that for on your drill
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