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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2016, 07:58:25 am »
Yes all data is useful  :thumbsup:

I'm the same I just work on averages really.

Have your LS X IG taken on the IG stature ?
Could be they are a more compact bird.

I'm keeping all 4 hens from this batch & 2 lucky cockerels.
There is 3 cockerels that I like so keeping a close eye on them.

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

  • Joined Oct 2014
  • leeds
  • Bramham flock Wiltshire Horns
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #46 on: June 22, 2016, 08:15:31 am »
hi
ye some of them have at a couple of weeks they where stocky,
i will keep the best and fastest growing cockerel and and 3 best pullets for breeding stock
that way i can also cross reference the offspring stats to there parents
i will keep a line of the light sussex

speaking to others that have compared both using same method the light sussex can hold a bit of fat around the organs and under the breast (not a bad thing)
where as the IG X doesnt carry any which makes it a very lean bird
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2016, 08:43:31 am »
I'm not too worried about feed conversations this year, I'm mainly getting some stock birds and a few for the table.
When I have my stock in place that I'm happy with I'll then start keeping the best proformers moving forward.

IG is a nice dense meat as well, the cock bird I'm using is huge but it's taken a good while to get there.
The Hens are not as big but a good old weight when you pick them up.  :thumbsup:

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

  • Joined Oct 2014
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  • Bramham flock Wiltshire Horns
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #48 on: June 22, 2016, 10:10:16 am »
maybe we could do some swaps in the future some nice LS for IG HA :thumbsup:
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #49 on: June 22, 2016, 03:20:22 pm »
Sounds a good idea PRincess Ruby :thumbsup:

Are you looking to keep IG as a pure breed as well ?


Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #50 on: June 22, 2016, 03:23:25 pm »
I've got 7 out of the 10. No idea why the other 3 have given up or are so very late! Broody has started moving about so last 3 have a last ditch chance in the incubator but no signs of life atm.  Maybe my candelling isn't so hot, or maybe the chicks are too big for the eggs so can't turn or something. Probably crossing with JG hens would be better....

The ones that have hatched are doing very well. Two Marans x now and noticeably smaller at this stage, but given the protracted hatch, the youngest is at least 24 hours younger than the oldest. I'll get a photo tomorrow.

Hows the chicks doing Hevxxx99 ?

Hevxxx99

  • Joined Sep 2012
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2016, 10:44:07 pm »
Please, call me Hev!  :)

They're doing well and eating like horses. I'm flat out at the moment, so haven't had much chance to do anything like weighing them, but will next week i hope.  The JGxLa Bresse are noticeably larger than the JGxMarans at this stage.

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

  • Joined Oct 2014
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  • Bramham flock Wiltshire Horns
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #52 on: June 23, 2016, 07:28:20 am »
Sounds a good idea PRincess Ruby :thumbsup:

Are you looking to keep IG as a pure breed as well ?

Yes I wouldn't mind some IG at some point next year
Just got to do some clearing out of others for next year
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #53 on: June 24, 2016, 01:25:21 pm »
They are 8 weeks old now with an average cockerel weight of 1.82kg.
So I think they will be ready in about 4 weeks.















I'm keeping all 4 pullets but starting to narrow down which 2 cockerels I will keep back as breeders.

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

  • Joined Oct 2014
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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #54 on: June 24, 2016, 02:35:41 pm »
thats not a bad hatch to table time  12weeks
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Bramham Wiltshire Horns

  • Joined Oct 2014
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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2016, 09:13:15 pm »
They are growing well
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #56 on: June 25, 2016, 07:38:46 am »
They do look well  :thumbsup:
Very nice.

Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #57 on: June 25, 2016, 12:24:40 pm »
Just picked these little fellas up.
















There is 20 Sasso medium grow Farm Rangers
And 20 Guinea Fowl.

Bramham Wiltshire Horns

  • Joined Oct 2014
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Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #58 on: June 25, 2016, 01:12:06 pm »
How long do the sasso take to grow out
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Dave C

  • Joined Aug 2014
  • Teesdale, Co Durham
Re: Breeding for Meat or Eggs
« Reply #59 on: June 25, 2016, 04:40:14 pm »
The growers I have at 8 weeks are also Sasso (who is the manufacturer of the hybrids) they are slow growth birds making 2.3kg in 12-14 weeks and these Sasso Farm Ranger chicks are medium growth birds which should make 3.2kg in 14 weeks ( I had 2 make 5kg in 14 weeks last year.

My plan is to cross the two hybrids and also cross them with IG.

 

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