just skinned and jointed the first cockeral, took just under an hour, but hope to get that down by at least 1/2 maybe 3/4s, a bit of advice, if you think the hook you hang it from is enough think again it needs to be strong enough to swing from, pulling the last bit of skin off was a heavy pull. will still do birds the other way but for casorolls and curries this may be best, also managed to do it in conservatory as its been raining all day, couldnt do plucking and gutting indoors. purchased a good boneing knife and had a good clevar, both worked well.