Author Topic: Untested Swine Flu jabs given to pregnant women  (Read 11775 times)

RUSTYME

  • Joined Oct 2009
Re: Untested Swine Flu jabs given to pregnant women
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2009, 08:36:26 pm »
absolutely no problem MM,
          as far as I an concerned talking on here is a conversation and as such , it can go anywhere. The basic topic will be discussed then it can open up other unexpected doors as is the case here.  So not off topic at all ...very much ON topic really , oh and this one was Julies topic ... ::) ;D


cheers

Russ

Snoopy

  • Joined Aug 2009
Re: Untested Swine Flu jabs given to pregnant women
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2009, 10:43:21 pm »
 ;D ;D ;D
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RUSTYME

  • Joined Oct 2009
Re: Untested Swine Flu jabs given to pregnant women
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2009, 12:01:09 pm »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-link-killer-nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html

I know I know ...it's the Mail ... but it does cover the information very well , and I have checked most of it elsewhere and it all seems to be right so far.
 This was put out in August but I thought it right to put it back on here as it gives information that for some reason seems to be getting left out of the vaccine program altogether ?? .

cheers

Russ

ps; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-FFobqCZzs         ignore the slightly strange happy chappie attitude of the presenter , but listen to what he says , very scary as everything checks out, as near as I can find out !
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jameslindsay

  • Joined Feb 2009
  • Nr St Andrews, Fife
  • "Blossom" one of my Pygmy Goats
Re: Untested Swine Flu jabs given to pregnant women
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2009, 12:09:18 pm »
It is such a worry, I had thought there was no way I would get the jab. However, my GP who is a good friend strongly recommends it and I got a phone call from the practice today to get it on Friday as I am diabetic. I really don't know what to do for the best.

RUSTYME

  • Joined Oct 2009
Re: Untested Swine Flu jabs given to pregnant women
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2009, 12:19:17 pm »
myself , I wouldn't let anyone get anywhere near me with a jab . Anyone wanting to give me the vaccine would have to be prepared to die to do so . I do feel that strongly about it , and I would carry out my warning to prevent myself from having ANY flu jab.
 I can't however help anyone else make their mind up , apart from putting up information that can be at best, difficult to find .
 All I know is there IS poison in the vaccine , of that there is no doubt , and many , MANY , doctors and people who make the vaccine will NOT take it ??, nuff said !!!

cheers

Russ

Fluffywelshsheep

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Near Stirling, Central Scotland
Re: Untested Swine Flu jabs given to pregnant women
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2009, 12:51:47 pm »
Never had a flu jab, and defo don't think i would take the swine flu jab either .

The hole reason i don't take the flu Jab (but i am a piority case due to asthma) is that my mother and grandparent where given it and they came down with the worst flue that year and it really floored them.

Any way their are many kinds of flu around and the government pick the one that think is gona be the worst that year then vacinate people against that partictule one, So what happens if you get the others types ? you get floored with them.

(I could be wrong in this but i don't think i am , any doctors/nurses on the forum , to say if it correct?)

sheila

  • Joined Apr 2008
  • Mablethorpe Lincolnshire
Re: Untested Swine Flu jabs given to pregnant women
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2009, 03:31:37 pm »
Me and MOH have had the flu jab for about the last ten years and can honestly say that we never have as much as a head cold. mind you we don't mix with that many people so perhaps we don't come into contact with the viruses that other people seem to get. however I have serious misgivings about the Swine Flu stuff and won't be having that.

doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Clackmannanshire
  • Qui? Moi?
Re: Untested Swine Flu jabs given to pregnant women
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2009, 11:39:45 pm »
Never had a flu jab, and defo don't think i would take the swine flu jab either .

The hole reason i don't take the flu Jab (but i am a piority case due to asthma) is that my mother and grandparent where given it and they came down with the worst flue that year and it really floored them.

Any way their are many kinds of flu around and the government pick the one that think is gona be the worst that year then vacinate people against that partictule one, So what happens if you get the others types ? you get floored with them.

(I could be wrong in this but i don't think i am , any doctors/nurses on the forum , to say if it correct?)

Just about Linz - what they do is prepare a cocktail of a few strains that are most likely to do the rounds and use that to jab in any one year.  I'm 65, no real health issues except osteoporosis and too much fat, so I'll probably be offered the jabs.  No way am I taking them.
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

Hardfeather

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Re: Untested Swine Flu jabs given to pregnant women
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2009, 11:14:46 am »
We have two sons, one six and one two, and we decided not to have them vaccinated at all.

The younger one had a prolonged jaundice when he was a baby, and had to go for numerous tests over a period of about nine months, after which they concluded that "some babies are like this". Now the medics have got him down as a liver-problem case, and have offered him the Swine flu jag. We will decline.

Having consulted a homeopath more often than a GP when the kids are 'off', we have always been wary of medication for the masses, and have adopted a 'wait and see, then react' attitude.

I read the books 'What vets don't tell you about vaccines', and 'What doctors don't tell you about vaccines', and was horrified.

We have kept dogs and horses for many years, and have had none of them vaccinated. Friends and relatives do the animal vaccinations regularly, and have endless problems which cost thousands of pounds in vet's fees.

I don't understand why, for example, people can have a single dose of vaccine and supposedly be protected for the rest of their lives, yet dogs and horses are required to have annual boosters. ???   £, perhaps.

Snoopy

  • Joined Aug 2009
Re: Untested Swine Flu jabs given to pregnant women
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2009, 05:30:01 pm »
We have two sons, one six and one two, and we decided not to have them vaccinated at all.

The younger one had a prolonged jaundice when he was a baby, and had to go for numerous tests over a period of about nine months, after which they concluded that "some babies are like this". Now the medics have got him down as a liver-problem case, and have offered him the Swine flu jag. We will decline.

Having consulted a homeopath more often than a GP when the kids are 'off', we have always been wary of medication for the masses, and have adopted a 'wait and see, then react' attitude.

I read the books 'What vets don't tell you about vaccines', and 'What doctors don't tell you about vaccines', and was horrified.

We have kept dogs and horses for many years, and have had none of them vaccinated. Friends and relatives do the animal vaccinations regularly, and have endless problems which cost thousands of pounds in vet's fees.

I don't understand why, for example, people can have a single dose of vaccine and supposedly be protected for the rest of their lives, yet dogs and horses are required to have annual boosters. ???   £, perhaps.

I have had a similar experience, and have little faith in Hospitals, Doctors, Operations and Vets - especially drugs that they recommend.

You are right to think the way you do, and more and more people will become aware of the whole money making business.

Vets have been known to come out to dying animals, and rather than not get paid for the call out by just admitting that the animal is
going to die, have given the animal an injection, so that they could bill for the visit and the administering of drugs, when, infact, the
injection given was just a vitamin injections, which would do nothing for the animal - but hey - the vet gets paid for his callout and drugs.

I am pretty sure this is the case with humans and doctors too - I was also born with Jaundice, and did not have any problems since,
until, after being given Aulin 100 for pain after major surgery, it was discovered that my liver went from totally normal, to that of an
alcoholics, within six months.

As I do not drink heavily, it is now believed, but cannot be proven, that the Aulin 100 caused my liver damage.

I was 9 1/2 stone all my life, but have ended up being 3-4 stone overweight which has been gained over a three year period, because my liver cannot process fat.

I need another major operation, but have to lose 2-3 stone before it can be performed - and until then I have to take an overdose of drugs to control the acid in my stomach - which causes other problems.

Before I had major surgery for cancer I used to trust the medical profession, even though my Grandmother voiced problems when she was terminally ill, and believed that she was being used as a guinea pig for experiments, and being given different tests and drugs all the time, I thought she was maybe imagining it - how wrong can you be!!! ???

Protect your animals and your children - the drug industry even has the doctors convinced it knows what it is doing - so called educated people in high positions - now I consider it brainwashing by corporate marketing skills.

rant over - Julie

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gavo

  • Joined Aug 2008
  • Belcoo, Enniskillen, N.Ireland
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Re: Untested Swine Flu jabs given to pregnant women
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2009, 12:00:11 pm »
Just feel the need to say vaccines have done alot of good many very serious or even fatal diseases have been eradicated due to mass vaccination. Please lets not go down the road of all medicines and medics are bad or we will be going backwards and ending up with every illness under the sun and greatly reduced life expectancies ;but hey if that's what you want you might be doing the GOVT a favour; you'll cost them less to keep cos you wont get to retirement age or need nursing homes or social care in your own home .Perhaps that's the plan ,get you lot to stop taking medical care and die young[many govt spending problems solved nice and easily.] Who knows? Russ?

sausagesandcash

  • Joined Jan 2009
  • UK
    • IrishHandcraft
Re: Untested Swine Flu jabs given to pregnant women
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2009, 12:04:30 pm »
Ah the 'ol reverse conspiracy, conspiracy......argh head starting to hurt!!

RUSTYME

  • Joined Oct 2009
Re: Untested Swine Flu jabs given to pregnant women
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2009, 12:26:37 pm »
well you could say we are already going backwards ...hospitals where people are dying from illness and disease that they caught IN hospital !!! People actually dying of malnutrition in hospital ( brought about by inadequate hospital diet !!)  ....hospitals unable to get rid of MRSA or other terrible infections .  Some hospitals I have been in , I wouldn't keep pigs in .. they were rank to say the least.
Some of those eradicated diseases are returning too ....TB ....there is now an almost untreatable form of TB . It is only managed till the patient dies !!!!  But yes medicine can be good , as long as medical practice is good too . And as long as politicians stay out of it .  But they won't , because there is money to be made out of sick people .
There are perfectly good and effective natural methods of curing/healing many health problems , but there is more money for doctors and the pharmaceutical companies if people are pumped full of god knows what crap .
 No I don't have all the answers Gavo , but neither do the politicians or even sadly GP's.   Most , sadly , being puppets for the big drug companies and just pumping any old crap/poison out as long as they get £££££. Now tell me I am wrong on THAT !!!!


cheers

Russ

Snoopy

  • Joined Aug 2009
Re: Untested Swine Flu jabs given to pregnant women
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2009, 12:28:41 pm »
Would expect that from the spouse of a nurse - brainwashing again  ;D ;D ;D
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RUSTYME

  • Joined Oct 2009
Re: Untested Swine Flu jabs given to pregnant women
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2009, 12:33:30 pm »
My head always hurts ....I think it must be something to do with the big empty space  within it !! But it is good to get all views , and that is how things can get sorted , not just by following corrupt politicians , who couldn't give a  toss if you are ill or not ..but there again .. they don't make money out of you if you are well ....oh silly me yes they do .... TAXES ... to pay for their second , third  and even fourth homes....

cheers

Russ

 

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