Author Topic: and another one not well...  (Read 22272 times)

fifixx

  • Joined Mar 2010
  • Shillingstone, Dorset
    • Bere Marsh Farm
and another one not well...
« on: February 08, 2013, 09:54:07 am »
One more of the 10 month old kids is standing by herself in a corner, tail down.

All lambivaced and oviplasted 2 weeks ago, I worm sampled yesterday and the vet gave me some panacur for her which I gave her 5pm.

One thing is she is slightly swollen around her nose - we did have a barber pole goat last year, so I've left a message for the vet to call me.

I am going to have a look at her eyelids to see if they look pale and anaemic.



colliewoman

  • Joined Jul 2011
  • Pilton
  • Caution! May spontaneously talk rabbits!
Re: and another one not well...
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2013, 08:06:50 pm »
Oh hun  :-[  I can't offer any advice but didn't want to read and run so have lots of  :hug: :hug: :hug:  instead.
I hope you find out what it is and she makes a full recovery :fc:
We'll turn the dust to soil,
Turn the rust of hate back into passion.
It's not water into wine
But it's here, and it's happening.
Massive,
but passive.


Bring the peace back

Mammyshaz

  • Joined Feb 2012
  • Durham
Re: and another one not well...
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2013, 08:09:06 pm »
So sorry you are having an awful time, hope you find the problem soon. There's nothing worse than not knowing.  :fc:  your girl improves soon  :hug:

wytsend

  • Joined Oct 2010
  • Okehampton
Re: and another one not well...
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2013, 08:18:49 pm »
Give Vecoxan as soon as you can....... this the right age/time for coccidiosis to strike .   I am assuming the kids are all up to date with clostridial vaccinations ?
You can buy Vecoxan over the counter.........it does not have to come from the Vet

Daisys Mum

  • Joined May 2009
  • Scottish Borders
Re: and another one not well...
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2013, 09:13:34 pm »
Sorry I cant offer any advice but hope you get her sorted soon, it's such a worry when they are not well :hug:
 
Anne

Lesley Silvester

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Telford
Re: and another one not well...
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2013, 10:36:16 pm »
 :hug: :hug: :hug: from me as well.

Anke

  • Joined Dec 2009
  • St Boswells, Scottish Borders
Re: and another one not well...
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2013, 10:46:55 pm »
Give Vecoxan as soon as you can....... this the right age/time for coccidiosis to strike .   I am assuming the kids are all up to date with clostridial vaccinations ?
You can buy Vecoxan over the counter.........it does not have to come from the Vet

I am not sure about cocci, at nearly 100quid a bottle it wouldn't be the first drug I tried..., especially if no diaorrhea. Also cocci in older goats (as opposed to young kids) is quite rare.
 
Another cause for anaemia could be fluke, if yours have been out grazing recently and it's quite wet in your fields?
 
I have found Panacur doesn't work on my goats anymore, been using Oramec for last two years.
 
Has your girl got a raised temperature? Any heavy breathing?
 
So sorry for you, you must be really worried now... :hug: 
 

fifixx

  • Joined Mar 2010
  • Shillingstone, Dorset
    • Bere Marsh Farm
Re: and another one not well...
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2013, 08:30:02 am »
Update:

vet came out yesterday.  She had a high temp, pale gums, eyes etc ,no scouring.  he was thinking fluke (but they haven't been out since Nov and were tested for fluke then - pooled sample though) or high worm burden (poss humuncus).  Sending fecal sample off for specific worm testing.

Antibiotic and buscopan given plus multivit for anaemia.

She's no better this morning - he has said she can go on a drip if necessary as she is a breeding animal so worth saving.

I'll wait till lunchtime to see how she is then I'll call the vet again.



fifixx

  • Joined Mar 2010
  • Shillingstone, Dorset
    • Bere Marsh Farm
Re: and another one not well...
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2013, 11:55:48 am »
Update no 2;  Moved poorly goat to a more snug side of barn and noticed her muzzle was sopping wet - just the same as one who died 2 weeks ago.  She was a bit unsteady on her feet and definitely worse. 

So - went to vet and told her what was going on (luckily goat-expert vet on this weekend) and she is coming out to have a look.  Her first question was had I lambivac-ed - which I did last week again.

Oh dear - worth spending the money as she is a good breeding animal

fifixx

  • Joined Mar 2010
  • Shillingstone, Dorset
    • Bere Marsh Farm
Re: and another one not well...
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2013, 01:16:59 pm »
Listeriosis

She had hay just stuck in her mouth and head to one side, circling when walking.  From either the haylage they had over a month ago and the end is still on the ground or perhaps the straw which I bed down with and they always nibble....

Another 24 hour wait to see if she'll get better after different antibiotic and metacam.  She has told me to give her water and some twin lamb stuff as the goat can't eat because of the paralysis on one side of the face.

Young goats are vulnerable as they are changing teeth and then the listeria can get up through the mouth into the brain - nasty.  I remember when i used to make ice-cream that listeria was the most dangerous thing to avoid poisoning people with!!


colliewoman

  • Joined Jul 2011
  • Pilton
  • Caution! May spontaneously talk rabbits!
Re: and another one not well...
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2013, 03:42:11 pm »
Oh poor you and poor little one  :hug: :hug: :hug:
I hope she makes a good recovery :fc: :fc: :fc: :fc: :fc: :fc: :fc:
We'll turn the dust to soil,
Turn the rust of hate back into passion.
It's not water into wine
But it's here, and it's happening.
Massive,
but passive.


Bring the peace back

Old Shep

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • North Yorkshire
Re: and another one not well...
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2013, 04:26:41 pm »
good luck, hope it gets over this  :fc:   My money would be on the haylage.  With the wet conditions this summer it was hard not to get some soil in with the hay.  :(
Helen - (used to be just Shep).  Gordon Setters, Border Collies and chief lambing assistant to BigBennyShep.

fifixx

  • Joined Mar 2010
  • Shillingstone, Dorset
    • Bere Marsh Farm
Re: and another one not well...
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2013, 04:39:17 pm »
just one question - I'm giving her warm water and twin lamb drench - not sure on quantities to give at a time? 

jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: and another one not well...
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2013, 07:39:49 pm »
Oh, I'm sorry, poor love.

Is she drinking the mixture or are you syringing it? She could probably drink 200ml - I suppose it depends  how often you're giving it?

 :fc: :fc:  that she recovers  :fc: :fc:

Anke

  • Joined Dec 2009
  • St Boswells, Scottish Borders
Re: and another one not well...
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2013, 07:54:54 pm »
Oh no, that doesn't sound good.... for goats that have pregnancy tox and aren't eating I have in the past drenched 3 times a day with about 15 to 20 ml of Propylene glycol (Golden Guenrseys). I would follow the advice on the side of the bottle as for ewes. Little and often is probably better.
 
 :fc: :fc:  for a positive outcome

 

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