Author Topic: freedom of speech.  (Read 46560 times)

deepinthewoods

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Re: freedom of speech.
« Reply #45 on: August 22, 2012, 09:37:33 pm »
yes they can, for a price. facebook is a buisness that uses all your information for commercial purposes. everything you write is also admissable as evidence in a court of law.
and was funded by the cia
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/376026/20120822/facebook-cia-darpa-tanking-ipo.htm

rispainfarm

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Re: freedom of speech.
« Reply #46 on: August 22, 2012, 09:59:00 pm »
That makes scary  reading, but we are niaive to think that facebook and others like it won't at some time be used by intelligence. It makes me want to delete my account.
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doganjo

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Re: freedom of speech.
« Reply #47 on: August 22, 2012, 10:15:08 pm »
Probably everything we put on here will be accessed at some time in the future too.  I have a feeling we are long past the point of no return. :gloomy: :'(
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

deepinthewoods

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Re: freedom of speech.
« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2012, 10:24:05 pm »
it already is as its a public forum annie, with god knows how many viewers across the globe, the difference with this bill is that all your private stuff will be legally viewable too, and your mobile texts and contacts as well, and stored for ever more!!!
what really gets me, is that the internet could and should be a force for good, enabling people to exercise their democratic right, as has been shown by the revolutions in lybia and egypt, although i do wonder whether that also was a cia excercise...

Berkshire Boy

  • Joined May 2011
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Re: freedom of speech.
« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2012, 10:42:17 pm »
Ditw you do make me laugh. How can you use Egypt etc as a good use of the Internet. What has happened to these countries is the worst possible thing they will be fighting civil wars for years and end up being ruled by people far more radical than they had in the first place. They think they have freedom that is the last thing they have.
Everyone makes mistakes as the Dalek said climbing off the dustbin.

deepinthewoods

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Re: freedom of speech.
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2012, 10:56:52 pm »
my pleasure.  :thumbsup:
 

tizaala

  • Joined Mar 2011
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Re: freedom of speech.
« Reply #51 on: August 23, 2012, 08:04:20 am »
that ok tiz, they already know you havent got any brain cells.. :o ;) ;D

Well , according to Mensa my IQ is 167. and Gabi has a degree in Psychology , she is finding your paranoia quite fascinating .

robert waddell

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Re: freedom of speech.
« Reply #52 on: August 23, 2012, 08:17:08 am »
 :roflanim: ah just love the needle :roflanim: :roflanim: :roflanim: :roflanim: :roflanim:

omnipeasant

  • Joined May 2012
  • Llangurig , Mid Wales
Re: freedom of speech.
« Reply #53 on: August 23, 2012, 09:11:48 am »
You might be paranoid, but it doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

can't remember where I first heard that

Moleskins

  • Joined Sep 2009
  • England
Re: freedom of speech.
« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2012, 09:21:58 am »
thats the spirit!
my grandad who fought hitler to protect your right to blissful ignorance would be turning in his grave.
Grandad would also be turning in his grave knowing that police tactics now are to 'kettle' protestors. Making us less likely to protest, he'd die again knowing that after the fuel blockades some years ago laws were brought in to prevent that type of protest happening again. some freedom he won for us!!


Given a few days of fuel protests the media always follow the government line of 'ok that's enough, we don't want the fire brigade or ambulances having no fuel and innocent people being hurt'. So we stop protesting. Are we so stupid that we don't know the government have fuel stores for their own vehicles. I've been to one in Cheshire.


We're being had, left, right and centre.


Some years ago (about 28) Country File was on about the closure of village schools and how that effected village life. No school, no families. The conclusion was,  government like us to move out of villages into cities because we're easier to control there.


Red tape, rules and regs. make it hard to be self employed. So you give up and go and get a job. Now as an employee you're much easier for the government to deal with, and you can't do any cash jobs.


Of course there's a bl@@dy conspiracy it's just a damn sight bigger than most of us realise.
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deepinthewoods

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Re: freedom of speech.
« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2012, 09:28:13 am »
tiz, 140 is genius so you must be up there with the bobby fischers and stephen hawkins of this world, do you think you maybe missed your calling? tell gabi 'snap' from me, altho mine is in psych and eng lang, joint honours.
i think if anyones paranoid it must be our government, why else would they need to watch us like hawks?
tiz, do you think they maybe got the decimal point in the wrong place....? ;D

deepinthewoods

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Re: freedom of speech.
« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2012, 09:40:24 am »
''Grandad would also be turning in his grave knowing that police tactics now are to 'kettle' protestors.''
 
let alone their use of agent provocateurs. theres loads of video footage online.
try this, but please try to use an open mind.(and turn the rubbish music off)
#Nov9 Student Protest... Violent Undercover Agents Exposed!!!
 
now whos paranoid??
 
 

the great composto

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Re: freedom of speech.
« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2012, 09:50:35 am »
I know this stuff goes on and I expect it but petition signing isnt the way forward.  If the govenment uses those tactics then how is a petition going to help?

My question is  - If you were the government then wouldnt you do EXACTLY the same?  I know I would.

deepinthewoods

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Re: freedom of speech.
« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2012, 09:59:07 am »
give me strength.....
no, i wouldnt use the same tactics, but then i wouldnt be in the mess this governments in.
 
i think ive made my point, that free speech is seriously under threat in the uk.
maybe signing a petition wont change anything, but AT LEAST IM TRYING.
the responsibility of each of us is to try.
thats me done now, it seems that  the governments already broken some people on here, thats a shame.

plumseverywhere

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Re: freedom of speech.
« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2012, 10:02:35 am »
As I said before, there are people who say "something should be done about that..." and there are those who are willing to try and do something about 'that' - whatever 'that' is.
You are being proactive DITW, good on you. Nothing worse than "I wish I had...."  :thumbsup:
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