[Sbom]

Is it just me that thinks it'd be cheaper and just as accurate to wait and see if they come in season again? You can't serve them again until they do anyway 

[Fowgill Farm]

Could reply to this, but folk would not like the reply, so i will just keep it to myself.

probably not but glad to see you up and participating anyway!
mandy 

[Simon O]

Hi Lillian I for one would be glad to hear what you have to say all info and opinion is useful.
I guess I do not know enough about these machines having not really considered getting one for myself before, but I had hoped it would be able to distinguish singleton and twin or triplet pregnancies in sheep, not just tell if the animal was pregnant or not.

[robert waddell]

get them scaned simon with your neighbours sheep  that is the cheapest way  50 pence a ewe

[HappyHippy]

I think we'd all be sensible enough to clean and disinfect the probe and unit before sending it on to another holding - I'm not completely stupid despite what some folk think

[Fowgill Farm]

get them scaned simon with your neighbours sheep  that is the cheapest way  50 pence a ewe

Thats what i do!   
but for free coz he thinks its fun to do pigs and i'm a daft wee blonde girly!
mandy 

[P6te]

All,
When I've rceived my Doppler I will let you know exactly what is included, but I am only expected EXTERNAL probe(s) in this.  I'd suggest calling Agritech to see what they could do if you require internal too.

Pete

[P6te]

All,

Having seen some of the questions being raised, I have just called Agritech.  This afternoon they will be signing up as members of TAS and will answer questions raised.

So ... any quesions, get typing! 

Pete

[HappyHippy]

I have a question 

Will they give me one for free? 

But in all seriousness, maybe a loan/hire scheme might be something worth looking at for us skint folk? 

[robert waddell]

i asked lillian what she was going to say    all she said was she would get barred
 
simon lillian will pm you

[Simon O]

 

[agritech]

I might be interested in a share of this. But how much skill and training do you need to use this?

With all of our equipment we send an instructional dvd which shows in detail how to use the equipment and explains the principles on how it operates. It really is very simple and straightforward and if you are seriously interested we can arrange for a copy to be sent to you.

[agritech]

I was just reading their site (funny how great minds think alike  ) and it says on there that there's a 'contour probe' that is used and can actually detect from day 16 in pigs 

I'm going to start a seperate thread, as I've just realised it might be of interest to sheep & goat owners too 
But if anyone's interested drop me a pm and I'll keep track of everyone and get something organised 

The 'contour probe' was our first external probe and the same technology is incorporated in the current version. The 16 day diagnosis has been made by stockmen handling 500 / 1000 sows who have become experts at the job. As Mandy says it is more usual to commence testing from approx 30 days. You must of course remember that a novice will not get these results from day one, it does take time to get used to using the equipment and as with everything the more you use it the better you become. And yes the same external unit can be used on sheep and goats as well as llamas and alpacas.

[agritech]

CAUTION   inexperienced people going about inserting probes into pregnant animals never mind transferring this equipment from farm to farm and the possible spread of disease IT JUST WONT BE ME       what the rest of you do is up to yourself    by all means get one but keep it on the one holding    the uncertainty is in my opinion down to bad management and husbandry    which in its self deserves a thread on its own   

Just to put everyone at ease the equipment we are talking about uses an external probe. With pigs we certainly do not "insert" our probes anywhere.  We do however produce rectal probes for larger livestock such as cows which does use an invasive proceedure.  Refering to the possible spread of disease this should not really be a problem provided the equipment is kept clean and prefferably sterilised before passing to the next farm unless of course any of these are minimal disease units in which case it's a no no!

[ballingall]

Just to put everyone at ease the equipment we are talking about uses an external probe. With pigs we certainly do not "insert" our probes anywhere.  We do however produce rectal probes for larger livestock such as cows which does use an invasive proceedure.  Refering to the possible spread of disease this should not really be a problem provided the equipment is kept clean and prefferably sterilised before passing to the next farm unless of course any of these are minimal disease units in which case it's a no no!

agritech, Thank you for joining up and answering the questions raised.


Beth