Author Topic: Boxador puppies - South Yorkshire  (Read 11845 times)

Hopewell

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Boxador puppies - South Yorkshire
« on: October 04, 2011, 10:34:51 pm »
We have been hand-rearing some Boxador puppies because the mother developed severe mastitis and the owner was unable to hand rear them. The mother was a Boxer and the father was a Labrador. They are black with the odd white marking on some of them, and have full tails that tend to curl over the back. At nearly 5 weeks old their characters are starting to come out now and they will be looking for permanent homes soon.

Hopewell

  • Joined Apr 2011
Re: Boxador puppies - South Yorkshire
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2011, 02:47:24 pm »
The first one has now gone to a new home. The new owner has had Boxadors before and said they make really good companion dogs. He told us that they aren't as greedy as a Labrador and they aren't as mad as a Boxer.

doganjo

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Re: Boxador puppies - South Yorkshire
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2011, 02:49:00 pm »
The first one has now gone to a new home. The new owner has had Boxadors before and said they make really good companion dogs. He told us that they aren't as greedy as a Labrador and they aren't as mad as a Boxer.
More designer dogs with no health checks I suppose?  What price is he asking £1000 each? ::)  No reflection on you, by the way, well done for looking after them for him.
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

Hopewell

  • Joined Apr 2011
Re: Boxador puppies - South Yorkshire
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2011, 07:36:21 pm »
The puppies have been vet checked, although none of the heriditary tests done as mistakes happen even in the best regulated households. The owner was an elderly lady who bought the bitch on the understanding that she couldn't have puppies! The price is no where near the figure you mention.

I have some sympathy with your antipathy to planned designer dogs with very few, if any health checks. However when you start to look at the history of quite a few breeds they were originally designer dogs. The Boxer would probably be included in that description, the Leonberger certainly was and a large number of the toy breeds were simply bred for what they looked like and as companions. The Dalmatian was originally for looking good running next to a carriage, which sounds like a designer breed to me even if it had some function. Does it matter whether it is a designer breed from 100-200 years ago or a designer breed from 21st century?

All my own dogs have been working/pastoral breeds and I personally would rather have a dog bred for a genuine purpose rather than simply a companion/designer dog.

Rosemary

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Re: Boxador puppies - South Yorkshire
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2011, 08:00:18 pm »
All my own dogs have been working/pastoral breeds and I personally would rather have a dog bred for a genuine purpose rather than simply a companion/designer dog.

I think being a companion dog is a genuine purpose for a dog. There would be lots of people much lonelier and sadder without their canine companion.

Hopewell

  • Joined Apr 2011
Re: Boxador puppies - South Yorkshire
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2011, 08:17:54 pm »
Sorry I didn't phrase that very well. I do agree that a companion is a genuine purpose and I've certainly felt very sorry for some people when I've seen them lose their canine companion. - Usually elderly people who live on their own.

doganjo

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Re: Boxador puppies - South Yorkshire
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2011, 09:51:13 pm »
Perhaps I don't come across as very understanding. ::), but I am really.  I had a spaniel cross as a child, she in turn had a misalliance, so the pups were mongrels. in those days, pure breds were expensive and there was a market for pet homes for mongrels and crossbreeds.  They all had skin diseases that came from one of the grandparents.  Not something my parents could have anticipated in post war times. These were both 'mistakes' but in those days there was no means of preventing misalliances or preventing the issue of such.  There is now.  >:( 

Yes, you are quite correct, all recognised breeds stemmed originally from crossing one with another, but these were planned matings in order to create another breed for specific purposes.  My own breed was - the Brittany was a cross between a high spirited short tailed hunting spaniel in France and the pointing and retrieving  breeds owned by the English Gentry who went on shooting trips over there.  The reason was they needed a dog that could hunt in the woods like a spaniel, point like a pointer so guns could get closer in the rough terrain, and retrieve like a retriever back to the owner, but was small enough to live in the home.  Designer dogs are just as it says on the tin - crossing all sorts of breed with anything else in order to make money, with no thought of what they will produce nor the diseases that come with the matings.  I assumed that this was a repeat mating from what you said about the owner's description of the offspring, and thus also assumed rightly or wrongly that it was a money making exercise.  My sincere apologies if I was wrong and I hope you find good forever homes for the pups, and that they live long and healthy lives.
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

Berkshire Boy

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Re: Boxador puppies - South Yorkshire
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2011, 11:15:07 pm »

Maybe Doganjo it would be a good idea if you read the listing properly before you went off on one of your rants against the non conformist breeders.
Everyone makes mistakes as the Dalek said climbing off the dustbin.

Sylvia

  • Joined Aug 2009
Re: Boxador puppies - South Yorkshire
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2011, 08:53:41 am »
I certainly hope this will not escalate into a quarrel (it upsets the dogs ;D) but I feel I have to come to Dogandjo's defence here. She always in her statements has the welfare of dogs at her heart. :)

skidley

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Re: Boxador puppies - South Yorkshire
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2011, 09:16:39 am »
I assumed that this was a repeat mating from what you said about the owner's description of the offspring, and thus also assumed rightly or wrongly that it was a money making exercise.

Hopewell said that the new owner of one of the puppies said that cross make good companion dogs

pikilily

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Re: Boxador puppies - South Yorkshire
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2011, 09:56:26 am »
Whoa, Whoa, whoa!! 
Please..!!!...Everyone cut, and take, a bit of slack.

We can all missread things occassionally.....and also write things in such a way as they could be missinterpreted.  ;)

Lets not start a quarrel...after all we are all actually on the same side.  The best for the dogs...or any other animal for that fact. 

I must admit that i agree with Doganjo's sentiments (and I hope that i am understanding them properly.).. that it is bizzarre that people can charge hundreds and hundreds of pounds for puppies which are, after all, mongrels!! ...and that because there is ...probably... not a Mongrel Breed Society to regulate and ensure the health of the breeding programme the puppys could have all sorts of health issues!!  Is that right Annie??

Emma T

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SallyintNorth

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Re: Boxador puppies - South Yorkshire
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2011, 10:49:17 am »
I started to reply on the subject of 'designer crosses' and then realised we were hijacking someone's ad for us all to debate pedigree versus crossbred again.  (It's such a great topic!)

So I've started a thread under Dogs; to pick up that debate there:
http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?topic=19021.msg178090#msg178090

Hopefully, Hopewell, that'll leave this thread in Marketplace as your advert for your Boxadors!
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pikilily

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Re: Boxador puppies - South Yorkshire
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2011, 12:58:55 pm »
Oooop -yeh- sorry Hopewell,

fingers crossed you find lovely homes for the pups  ;D ;D ;D
Every dog no, matter what its breeding, is deserving of the the best!!
Emma T
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doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
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Re: Boxador puppies - South Yorkshire
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2011, 03:23:25 pm »
Whoa, Whoa, whoa!! 
Please..!!!...Everyone cut, and take, a bit of slack.

We can all missread things occassionally.....and also write things in such a way as they could be missinterpreted.  ;)

Lets not start a quarrel...after all we are all actually on the same side.  The best for the dogs...or any other animal for that fact. 

I must admit that i agree with Doganjo's sentiments (and I hope that i am understanding them properly.).. that it is bizzarre that people can charge hundreds and hundreds of pounds for puppies which are, after all, mongrels!! ...and that because there is ...probably... not a Mongrel Breed Society to regulate and ensure the health of the breeding programme the puppys could have all sorts of health issues!!  Is that right Annie??

Emma T
Absolutely 100% correct, Emma.  Thank you. :love: And my apologies for hijacking too - as you can see I feel very strongly about dogs bred for money and without thought fro their welfare.  Something I have never done and never would do.  I breed because I have proven dogs - in show and obedience and only then if I have enough enquiries and want a pup for myself or friends.  Sorry if I seem dogmatic - excuse teh pun but that is exactly what i am!  ;D ;D
« Last Edit: October 14, 2011, 03:27:02 pm by doganjo »
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robert waddell

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Re: Boxador puppies - South Yorkshire
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2011, 03:39:45 pm »
just been informed today that they all want a designer dog with a bit of poodle in them because people with allergies favour them        then why not just get a poodle     or is that missing out on the money :farmer:

 

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