Author Topic: Troops to be used to control civil unrest.....  (Read 34509 times)

smiffy

  • Joined Jun 2008
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Re: Troops to be used to control civil unrest.....
« Reply #60 on: May 24, 2009, 10:25:09 pm »
it used to be 5ft 2inch, not sure if there is one now

kevkev57

  • Joined Sep 2008
Re: Troops to be used to control civil unrest.....
« Reply #61 on: May 26, 2009, 02:17:57 pm »
Well Russ you can certainly put forward your argument in a forceful way , which is good. However amongst all your comments, I can see no evidence of " swearing allegiance to the EU "   I think it was such a big statement on your part, that I had to reply to it initially. Also any speculation of reducing or not allowing royal families within the EU, is simply not true. Its kind of a ' EU to impose straight banana ' headline. never happened ,never will.

As for being in Belgium for too long, I think not.  I still make frequent visits back to the UK , but as far as I am concerned its no longer home for me. When I look at the creeping invasion of privacy, stressful life, over population, immigrant problems, high cost of living etc etc,and the amount of nonsense you have to put up with,It saddens me greatly.

I live in a remote area, in a large hunting lodge that costs a mere fraction of UK prices. I get one of the best health covers in the world, for peanuts , uncrowded roads and motorways and lay back lifestyle. Utility bills over 40% less, and land rates for a huge house and 15 acres costing 120 euros a year !

Judging by your long rants and stomach problems its a lifestyle that could be just for you.

Kevin






rustyme

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Re: Troops to be used to control civil unrest.....
« Reply #62 on: May 26, 2009, 04:10:01 pm »
Hello Kevin ,
               the stomach cramps have nothing to do with my lifestyle really , or do they ...? I ate a fast food takeaway , which I am not used to doing . I eat nearly all homegrown veg etc and my system just isn't used to fast food carp ...lol. As for the rest, well I doubt we are going to agree , so I will just say that on all big issues I do research , and I did read in EU official documents what is and isn't on the cards. IT is available to read, although it does take forever to find . I do appreciate your comments especially as you live in Europe and know first hand what it is like out there. My lifestyle is very laid back and almost medieval really , thats how I like it , and my very rare RANTS .... ::)... are not really how I live my life :o.  It would sound that we live sort of similar ways..very laid back and easy going , although the details may differ. One thing I will do from now on , is keep records of all information I collect off the internet , as it is absolute murder trying to find individual slices of info that you read a couple of months ago.

cheers

Russ
« Last Edit: May 26, 2009, 04:31:50 pm by rustyme »

kevkev57

  • Joined Sep 2008
Re: Troops to be used to control civil unrest.....
« Reply #63 on: May 27, 2009, 07:03:34 am »
Glad your rants are rare, I could feel it on the back of my neck. Just feeling a bit sorry it was me that provoked it ! Anyway I am glad to see the stomach ache is down to a fast food chain and not me...

I make every effort possible to simplify my life. I gave up driving modern cars with electronics in them around 4 years back for example.  Driving costs are way down now on insurance, road tax, and depreciation.  I have a 1983 mercedes W123 that runs on , well anything you care to put in it more or less, and a Toyota HiLux, African spec with no electronics. Easy fix cars.

I am very bad at saving stuff I find on the net. Must do better there.

Kevin


xxmillyxx

  • Joined Jan 2009
  • East Yorkshire
Re: Troops to be used to control civil unrest.....
« Reply #64 on: May 27, 2009, 09:44:01 am »
OMG Kev - can cars run without electronics LOL.  Must be before my era  ::)

Reading through the posts I can see and agree some of yours and Rusty's points and you both seem to have a lot of good things going for both of your lifestyles. I know I really ought to keep my nose out, but my thinking is

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xxmillyxx

  • Joined Jan 2009
  • East Yorkshire
Re: Troops to be used to control civil unrest.....
« Reply #65 on: May 27, 2009, 10:03:53 am »
Omg got chucked out there - does that tell me something or what LOL

ok here we try again

1  Can I have the 40% less costs on utilities
2  Can I have the medievil lifestlye
3  Can I have the fantastic healthcare (ours is good and all in it work hard but not enough money in the system for the basics is my thinking)
4  While I'm at it I love my teeth and can we sort out the dentistry system as well
5  OK we don't need a monarchy really, but come on they have always been there and they are a part of our culture to my thinking and I hope they are for a long time to come
6  OMg 120 euros for council tax - I want that too
7  EU - do the euro MP's get paid expenses like ours ?  If so where do I sign up
8  .......

....Most of all I want my little house and the bit of the UK I own because I love it, even with all the faults, the bent MP's, the long waiting lists, the costs of land tax, the numerous rules and regulations, I wake up every morning and I feel good these days because I am happy - it took me a long time to get here with a lot of woes along the way - but basically I am happy and content.

Yes we all have problems - I am 42 years old and I have had MS since 1993, my husband broke his neck and back down the pit (and by the way no compensation) between us we have had 4 children and now only have 2 on this earth, but we have a grandchild and we love every minute with her on own little bit of land. 

What I would say is put everything in perspective and find the good things in your lives because everything is worth it in the end - that is life and we have to live it no matter what things throw at us.  Don't let things effect you if you can help it, be involved if you think you need to, walk away if not.

Simple - never !?!

rustyme

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Re: Troops to be used to control civil unrest.....
« Reply #66 on: May 27, 2009, 01:32:23 pm »
I think it really was the fast food that did it ...it took a while to realize what was the cause but then it fitted. The rants...well they are rare really ...but I know I do tend to kick off if something gets up my nose . I am also a grumpy old man ...make that a very grumpy old man , and years ago I had a car smash lots of bits broken including my head ....well that left me with anger problems for ages , got them under control , but I think grumpy old man syndrome is what I am left with !!! ::)  I to only drive old cars, pre modern electrics, a Daihatsu fourtrack 21 years old , and when I get a decent chassis, a series 3 LWB landrover. Both will run with virtually no electrics at all. The fourtrack runs on whatever I put in it too , so would the land rover but at the mo it has a petrol engine in it . I have a diesel to go in, that would run on anything but, the chassis is so rotten I am waiting to get a better one, and then change everything over . The amount of miles I do in a car , I can grow enough sunflower or rapeseed to supply all I need.
   I too have simplified my life to a huge degree, I am only one or two steps from being in the 16th century in many respects  really. I prefer to live this way , but it is hard Milly....So many people in modern western life just don't seem to DO anything themselves. It seems just one long trip of buy this buy that , get someone to do this or that , drive here and there and almost never walk ..and so on . If I want anything done there is no choice really , I have to do it myself. I also broke my neck and back plus loads of other bits and bobs, so I have had to learn to do things different to how I did them before.  The one thing I worry about is what I will be able to do in ten or more years time . I am nearly 52 now and life may well catchup sometime soon, arthritis and so on . I already have the beginnings of it  but like you Milly , you just have to get on with it and make the most of what you have now .  Oh and by the way , EU MPs get even more in expenses than our MPs, they get more wages , expenses ,travel allowances ,office allowances etc etc , the list goes on and on.  
    Ahhhhhh the simple life  !!!! as you say, never, It is hard work . It is also very rewarding and satisfying and although hard work , it is also a laidback way of life too .... it is very hard to explain that , hard work but laidback ???? But that is how it is for me. If things get even worse than they are now in the UK , all the laws and control etc, I  could easily slip out of the way completely , on my little bit of the 16th century. I could live quite happily that way . If THEY tried to interfere or stop me ...then in true Rambo style , the sh*t will surely hit the fan BIG time.
 

cheers

Russ

sausagesandcash

  • Joined Jan 2009
  • UK
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Re: Troops to be used to control civil unrest.....
« Reply #67 on: May 27, 2009, 10:49:30 pm »
They drew first blood Rustyme....they drew first blood!

rustyme

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Re: Troops to be used to control civil unrest.....
« Reply #68 on: May 28, 2009, 01:31:15 am »
yup....DON'T PUSH ME , DON'T PUSH ME !!!!    :o :o ;D ;D

kevkev57

  • Joined Sep 2008
Re: Troops to be used to control civil unrest.....
« Reply #69 on: May 28, 2009, 07:38:48 am »
Milly, Firstly I have to tell you that our families favourite ewe is called '' Milly '   She is known for her strength to survive all. Reading your comments about your life I can see that you are the same kind of Milly !

You are of course right in saying, that you can make the best of what you have and where you are. We do the same. My move to the Ardennes was 14 years back ,and it was an opportunity that I took, and have never looked back.My wife being Belgian also made the change easier. Having said that if I for some reason I moved back to the UK I would make the best of what I had or didnt have.

Thanks for joining in
Kevin

kevkev57

  • Joined Sep 2008
Re: Troops to be used to control civil unrest.....
« Reply #70 on: May 28, 2009, 07:44:11 am »
Russ,

Hmm you say you live in almost medival times, chez vous, but what about the computer ?  Or is it the year 1206 model , stone case, wrought iron keyboard and plough attachements ?

I would imagine that KNOWING you can ' slip away ' as you put it in the event of state interference etc , must give you great satisfaction.

Kevin

rustyme

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Re: Troops to be used to control civil unrest.....
« Reply #71 on: May 28, 2009, 12:35:08 pm »
Kevin,
        have you never been to the YE OLDE COMPUTER SHOPPE ???  ::) I like the idea of a pc with plough attachments though ...(I was in a modern tractor the other day ,and it worked by sat nav !!! you just hit a few buttons once in the field, and away it goes, you just sit there....didn't like that at all).   However, I do like the pc and a few other modern bits and bobs but I could easily just walk away from them if need be, although the breadmaker would be hard to give up, along with the electric light bulb and the good old wellies. I lived without electricity for 2 or 3 years , and although I got used to it , I got really cheesed off with the doom and gloom of candles and oil lamps and the craziest thing of all is living with candles and oil lamps, is dearer than paying for electric !!! Plus no matter how well you trim the wick on the oil lamp etc , everything ends up covered in a black film that never comes off. So , reading back that last bit , it wouldn't be SO easy to walk away from ALL mod cons !!! ::)
  OH and Milly my Weimaraner is called Millie I know that is spelt wrong , but Millie is wrong in the head anyway , she is out there on Pluto most of the time , but I do love her anyway  ;D ;D

cheers

Russ

sheila

  • Joined Apr 2008
  • Mablethorpe Lincolnshire
Re: Troops to be used to control civil unrest.....
« Reply #72 on: June 01, 2009, 05:18:12 pm »
 yes troops were used in the miners strike. I have many photos to prove it. make no mistake. it won't matter which party is in power, the state machinary will come into play if needs be.

doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Clackmannanshire
  • Qui? Moi?
Re: Troops to be used to control civil unrest.....
« Reply #73 on: June 01, 2009, 05:52:50 pm »
well if there's another miners strike, Longannet won't run out of coal again - they are stock piling it at the rate of 18000 tons a day by my reckoning - I wonder why?  Hidden agendas abound, methinks!  Where's my mole when I need her? ;)  Out sunning herself I bet! ;D ;D ;D
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

rustyme

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Re: Troops to be used to control civil unrest.....
« Reply #74 on: June 01, 2009, 05:56:56 pm »
hello Annie,
           is  that a conspiracy theory you have there ??? surely not !!! ::) ;D ;D I thought that was my job .. ;D

cheers

Russ

 

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