[sausagesandcash]

Lol, I once wengt to a gun shop to buy shotgun cartridges. I asked the guy behind the counter for some, but didn't specify the number. He asked me what I was shooting. I replied I want to be able to  shoot a grown man in the chest and know that he'll never get up (I managed to keep a straight face!). Without missing a beat he replied, well you'll want No.4's so. I just burst out laughing, I couldn't believe it.   

[HappyHippy]

    
Well I for one (with my tongue firmly planted in my cheek) will be setting up trip wires and smoke bombs all round my veggie patch and sitting there greasepainted up to the nines in my cammo gear waiting for them to arrive - just in case, but that's only IF they ever manage to find their way to the middle of nowhere ! 

[rustyme]

you are right Davidnchris, but if there was civil unrest to that degree then thats when the police and army lock down the towns and cities, road blocks and curfews etc. It would be more likely that local people who don't have land animals or veg , would be on the lookout , as there would be less rural lock down than urban. If the unrest was due more to fuel problems or fuel problems were caused by civil unrest, then people from the towns etc would only be able to travel as far as they could walk ( or ride a bike maybe ?) so those living further out would be relatively ok ( not perfectly safe just ok ). If however civil unrest turned into total anarchy then , well it would be everyone for themselves, and then the further away from people the better. I do though think we are a long way away from that senario right now , but with world food and fuel  problems as they are , it would only take one terrible harvest or some nut to attack an arab/muslim state....or such like, and the situation could change fast. Fingers crossed  it will be ok .....However last February/March I read on at least 4 different sources , that the banks were going to crash in about the second week of September !!!! and hay ho ...bang on target. Those same sources stated that that was just the beginning . Where will it all lead who knows ? do I sit and worry about it ? no not really , I just carry on doing my thing . I do watch with concern though and try to be prepared cope with whatever comes along , Que sera sera........ or should that be " don't push me !!!"  Rambo style.....

cheers

Russ

[Fluffywelshsheep]

lol has a vision of you in your camo gear with a bump lol

[Fluffywelshsheep]

oh well rusty thats me knakered then lol

[rustyme]

lol.... I think you will be ok for a while yet Linz...... but if they do come looking ... well I am ready here with me bow an arras.....and yes I can use it . I can hit a plastic milk bottle at 100 yards, I can also let loose 12 arrows a minute and could hit something man sized at upto about 125 yards. So if they come at me with shot guns hehehe .. they are going to lose ....if they have rifles ? ... well they can have the bloody veg !!!   

cheers

Russ

[rustyme]

thought it about the right time to reserect this post.....it seems even more apt now after recent events...well we had some riots , only small compared to what they were expecting but , at least one person died because of them . The army have now been taken out of Iraq , the bankers have got away with it so far , and now it is the governments turn . This really is hitting the fan now. More strikes are now happening against Polish workers taking our jobs .
   I read some 6 months or more ago , that the UK government would crash sometime this summer...well , maybe it will . Thankfully it looks as though UKIP will get many more EU votes due to the corrupt filthy thieves running the UK , and they will try their very best to get us out of the EU . However I did read that the reason behind the UK government collapse was so that the EU could step in and take over completely Fingers crossed that one won't come about. The nation as a whole now seem to be getting much more vocal about the situation . Maybe because they are losing their jobs and their homes now , while the government take more and more money from us. Even here in Wales , a conservative party EU election walk about was cancelled in Carmarthen by the Police , with them stating it was to volatile a situation , and they couldn't guarantee the MPs safety !!!! Oh and Police cover of the M4 has been withdrawn in the Dyfed Powys Police area, they will now only  attend accidents .  Things are changing fast now , I can't see normality continuing for much longer.

cheers

Russ

[kevkev57]

I think some of the comments here about the EU are over the top. Swearing allegiance to the EU and not the Queen for example, pure Daily mail that. As for not allowing a Queen or King within the EU.....  sheer rubbish.  I am not an avid supporter of the EU either, but I think such amazing comments need to be binned.


If you want to look at scary stuff you need not venture across the channel. There are plenty of thnigs to be worried about, and they are all home grown. Restriction of your freedoms under the guise of terrorism, a Englidh plot not an EU one, is a good example.  Health and safety taken to dizzy mad heights, blame the EU ?  I think not.


Just my euro cents worth
Kevin in Brussels....complete with Monarchy ( allowed )

[doganjo]

I have just heard (from her parents)that a friend of mine who is bi-polar and on the verge of suicide can't have her medication changed for the better because it is up to her to say if she wants it changed or not.  She's not in a fit state to decide, but that is the law under the Mental Health Act.  I know we have come along way since frontal lobotomy, electric shock treatment, and mental institutions, but is this not taking things a bit far?  She needs to have her medication changed but her poor husband is powerless - even their GP is in agreement but the Psychiatrist is insisting on sticking with the rules of giving her the decision to make.  Law gone mad!

[rustyme]

I was under the impression that the King of the Belgians ,was just that ....and not the King of Belgium !!!!!, that is a big difference !!! King of Belgium would indicate  Monarchy of the State , this is clearly NOT allowed under EU law . However the European Constitution ,although still rolling on even after the French , the Dutch and  the Irish voted NO, doesn't come into force until 2010 . That may well be a bit later now due the the no votes. If the EU has no intent on controlling the UK why is the UK already divided up into 12 sections, under EU law again ,that will be just more areas of a European Union when it really does become so . I am not a royalist in any way and would not mind at all getting shot of them , if we, WE the people of the UK voted to do so . I do however object to any such ruling coming from the EU . A body that not one person in the UK has been allowed to vote on , either in to or out of !!!! I was born in the UK and being so , I am allowed  as a free man ,under the constitution of this country , to speak my views good or bad . As long as they do not insight people to riot or cause harm or injury . I will continue to use that RIGHT , and will not bin any comments I believe to be true , perhaps you have been in Brussels too long ? We were lied to in 1972 by Edward Heath , the UK PM. We were told that the Common Market was purely a place for us to trade within Europe , and that there would never be ANY surrender of our powers or sovereignty  to ANY body in Europe . That was a complete lie . Subsequent governments have done the same , and we now are in the position that only 20-25% of our legislation is directly from the UK government . The other 80% being directly from the EU GOVERNMENT , who in turn get the DIRECTIVES/LAWS from the EU commission. These being an unelected body of some 24 people who decide themselves who will be part of the commission. This is a dictatorship !!! whichever way you look at it . I am being told by an unelected body of people what I can and can't do . I can not even vote them out !!! all I can do is vote someone like UKIP into the EU parliament to get us out of the EU . Once out, we can then trade with the rest of the world  , some 90-95% of the world population of the planet, as we did before we gave up our freedom and our sovereignty to an almost exact replica of the old Soviet Union, the EU ,only some 5-10% of world population .The EU needs us more than we need the EU , and I, as a free man, can only hope that the UK sees what has been done to our country, and gets us OUT of the EU. All polls done so far state that somewhere between 65 and 85 % of the country want out of Europe , that is a majority .....under democratic rules that means we should be taken OUT of it . However under EU laws that have been imposed on us , we are unable to do so . This looks set to change ,gladly . For people like yourself, who although maybe unhappy with some things in the EU ,  are prepared to accept what a dictatorship imposes upon you . I am not . My comments may be over the top and amazing, but they are the comments of a free man, deluded, mistaken , confused , insane , bigoted, arrogant or just plain wrong , they are the comments of a FREE man and I will not BIN any comment I make either for you or for ANY dictatorship . If you or anybody doesn't like my comments, then as free people , you have the right not to read them , or to read and comment as you have done . But please do not TELL me to BIN my comments . I WILL NOT DO SO . I thank you for your comments ,( apart from the bin one !!), and look forward to any future posts you may make . We must all listen to what others have to say ,  not tell them what they may say because their views differ from others.
 This forum , being a friendly place on the whole , would not be the place for a slanging  match , nor do I want one . But if one is wanted ? it would be best to carry it out over PM , that way other people who don't want to read it, are allowed that privilege. I am of the old school , if anyone has a problem with me or comments I may make , then step outside and sort it out there !!

cheers

Russ

[Crofter]

WOW!   way to go Russ!

I may not always agree with all your comments (Though most of them) but you have the right to hold them and express them as long as they do not harm others.  You are quite right about the EU but as you say, not one citizen of this country can do a thing to change it, the best we can hope for is to get out before it cripples our country for ever

I, like you I think, am a little selective as to which dictates I adhere to and which I ignore.

Dave

[rustyme]

lol.... I may disagree with someone about something , I may even be told I am talking crap , without any hurt feelings or dented pride , I am a big boy and can look after myself pretty well. I will not , however , be told what comments or statements I may make about a subject that is open for all to discuss. I know full well my intellectual limitations , and that my grasp on certain situations can be , shall we say, a bit far out . As for adhering to dictates ....er nope , not me . I will abide by what was once our normal UK law , but I will not adhere to any dictates from the EU or anywhere or anybody else . I am not in the EU , never voted to be in , never been asked if I want to be in ,I therefore am not in it ...full stop . There are somethings that the EU has brought into being , that I can do nothing about . I can only accept this and hope that things change, but I will not follow any law that is direct from the EU unless it were to be something like 'thou shall not kill ' .  Kevin is as entitled, as me and everyone else , to his opinion . He can disagree with some, or all that I say, and say so , I have no problem with that at all . I do have a problem with being TOLD to bin  certain comments, because they don't fit in with someone Else's thoughts , beliefs or ideals . Very few things really get up my nose these days , but the EU is one that does , and another is someone trying to control my thoughts beliefs etc etc.....No way is that going to happen , wether I am right or wrong .
        I have had  terrible stomach cramps all yesterday and today, maybe that has made me somewhat touchy . But whatever , I will NOT be TOLD what to say by anyone. Is that some deep seated objection to authority ? God knows , I have neither the intelect nor the knowledge to judge, nor do I really care a stuff ... I am what I am , good or bad. I always enjoy others comments on any subject , even if they differ greatly from mine . I will always try to see things from their perspective , and will look into what they say, to see if they are right or wrong . I will admit without any delay or question , if I am wrong . I will not though, be brow beaten or controlled. I am sorry for ranting on about this, but there are some things I hold dear to me .. my family , my animals , and my freedom. Freedom being something we have all given up to a big degree over the past 20 years or so . I think it is something we will take back as a country, and I certainly will as a man .


cheers

Russ

[smiffy]

Winston Churchill once said......'"If Britain must choose between Europe and the open sea, she must always choose the open sea."

The magna carta was writen and even the king was not above the law of the magna carta....
Brief extracts from the Magna Carta:

"...and to all freemen of this our realm, these liberties following, to be kept in our kingdom of England for ever."

"No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or disseised of his Freehold ... except by the lawful judgement of his peers."

"We will sell to no man, we will not deny or defer to any man either Justice or Right."

OOOPPPPSS i think anti terrorism laws now overide our civil liberties  AND Please dont get me started on government and bankers

[smiffy]

I forgot to add.... using troops to control civil unrest in the uk is not a new thing.

Troops were deployed during the miners strike in the 80's, dressed as police, but just a little too short Police has hight restrictions nd some of the 'police' were not much over 5ft

[doganjo]

Does the army not have a height restriction then?