[sausagesandcash]

16 million, now that's just obscene by any standards. I swear to god this will all roll over into violence as things get worse, a friend of mine reckons that it will end up in someone getting lynched...Is that the smell of revolution in the air. Hey we could alwys go back to the barter system. I have no problem giving the doctor a chicken for a visit... it sure as hell beats 50 euro, lol.

[HappyHippy]

In the words of the Kaiser Chiefs 'I predict a riot' 
But it's all getting a bit much for me, seriously scary stuff (probably worse as I'll shortly be bringing another poor sod into this crazy mixed up world) - blame the hormones ! 
Think I'll go and have a wee cup of tea and lie down in a dark room for a while 

[sausagesandcash]

I've already brought four into this crazy mixed up world. I have always told them that 'evil triumphs when good men do nothing'. They are learning how to grow crops, raise their own pigs and chickens, and have a healthy distrust for government and taxes. lol. The funny think is I am viewed as a member of the establishment in the community. If only they knew ..... (Manic Laughter!) 

[doganjo]

Well I think you are all scaremongering

[sausagesandcash]

The pot, it is a boiling.....the gas is on high....how long 'til the pot boils over? We have had more protests in the last two weeks than I have ever seen (i'm 38). Sure, it might not descend into anarchy...but if people start losing their houses in great numbers, and their kids are going hungry, while the fat-cats are still lording it up. A cartoon in the Irish papers showed people calling for bread, the politicians said 'can't they eat cake', but the bankers replied 'No, we ate it all!'

[Hilarysmum]

Going back a bit - Look at the rules and regulations we have for pig production, which allow us to be undercut by European counteries with an incredibly poor standard of production. It's a scandal what poor standards they get away with. I say even the playing field and let the pigs have quality of life before hitting the plate. A happy pig is a tasty pig! Ban the crappy imports from Germany, Denmark etc.

Its a matter of educating the consumer not to expect cheap rubbish food.  Surely its better to fill children with decent food than to buy the latest Oui game etc.

Rant over!!!!

[Fluffywelshsheep]

Hey we could alwys go back to the barter system.

here here lol

[Fluffywelshsheep]

on this note, when i moved here (tullibody)
their was uproar about the new police station built 'out of the village' but it turns out that there was only a new police station built to help if there was a riot or problem up at the prison so it was near to get help to them (so sod all the residence of tullibody) but the prison will be ok .

on another point (call me a scarmonger) with the world going toward green issues i think one day in the not so distance future the world will be in a post apocalyptic where  you'll either sink  or swim and those that really on fossil fuel technology will have to re learn the basic before they can start again.

(dum and gloom, all the way!)

hehe
Linz

[carl]

Riots, or just the threat might wake up some of our movers and shakers.(politicians, bankers etc who are so self important, you've got to hate em all whatever colour rosette they wear). let us all look after ourselves the best we can, work hard pay some taxes ( not too much mind ), and try to keep food on our plates and the bailiifs from the door. Don't panic as corporal jones used to say, though he also used to say something about them not liking it up them. so draw the curtains or draw your bayonet and lets get on with it. I think I might put some manure on my veg patch on sunday.

[rustyme]

Hello Annie,
            when  a subject such as this is discussed , it will always run the risk of being called scaremongering. In reallity it is just discussing a very topical subject that touches on some very unpleasant situations, that MAY occur if certain circumstances come into being . The situations being discussed here are all very possible at the moment . The police ARE preparing for civil unrest and the armed forces ARE being prepared also if the police are unable to cope . There are certain factions of the population that ARE preparing to protest on a number of subjects that are pertinent at this moment in time, and these factions ARE prepared to go further than just protesting . It is a very dangerous time in many respects , as here in Wales the police have already stated that they are preparing to withdraw their services from the M4 ,due to insufficient  funding . They are also preparing to withdraw cover of major events such as football/rugby matches , pop concerts and the like , also due to a lack of funding . This isn't scaremongering but fact, and it will come into effect on the 6th of April , unless substantial extra funding is applied by the government . Such funding will NOT be forthcoming say the government . I try always to discuss matters that are real and pertinent and that may effect those on this forum . This subject would possibly effect many on here as many live in or near towns or cities, or if they don't live in or near, then they work in or near them . As for me ? well it won't really make any difference at all ...lol. I just carry on doing my own little thing , tucked well out of the way of any cr*p that may hit the fan. However , I do like to hear what other people from around the country think of certain situations , always be prepared !!!!! It may all blow over and nothing happen ...GREAT ...but then again it may not ....
   Please don't think that this is in any way a dig or a moan at you Annie it isn't , I respect and appreciate your comments on all subjects . I did wonder wether to raise the subject or not ? , in the first place , but thought now a good time to explain why I did .

cheers

Russ

[HappyHippy]

I have to say I'm shocked 
The government can't afford to make extra funds available to the POLICE !!!
Yet they can bail out greedy bankers (or should that be ***kers, with my spelling you just never know lol!) - maybe I'm being thick here, but I always thought the police force was a PUBLIC SERVICE provided by all us good taxpaying folk (Is that not the point of taxes after all  ) The last I heard banks were NOT public services?
But hey, if there's not going to be PC Plod then maybe all the taxpayers could go and rob their cash back from the banks without fear of being aprehended 
Seriously though - What is happening in the heads of those who run our country ? 

[rustyme]

good question HH,
                     what is happening ?  The police force running out of money !! and yet they can pay the EX head of RBS a £693,000 per year pension , this was agreed AFTER the government bailed the bank out with OUR money !!! and they are about to bail it out again to the tune of billions this time , to cover TOXIC debts. The only thing Toxic is the people running the banks and the government, all with their hands firmly stuck in the cookie jar.......We already own 84% of RBS and will own even more in the next few days/weeks, but still  Mr Goodwin gets his £16 million pension , while the police have to cut huge amounts of cover over a big area, as well as councils having to cut back on services such as rubbish collection , street lighting ,road repair ,and many more public services.  While the big wa...errrr sorry bankers get their HUGE payouts there are hundreds of thousands of ordinary people losing and about to lose their homes , and even more people getting stuck in negative equity. Will anyone bail them out ... NOPE.....it will be people like the bankers buying up cheap houses at auction making even more money......

Russ

[doganjo]

Hello Annie,
            when  a subject such as this is discussed , it will always run the risk of being called scaremongering. In reallity it is just discussing a very topical subject that touches on some very unpleasant situations, that MAY occur if certain circumstances come into being . The situations being discussed here are all very possible at the moment . The police ARE preparing for civil unrest and the armed forces ARE being prepared also if the police are unable to cope . There are certain factions of the population that ARE preparing to protest on a number of subjects that are pertinent at this moment in time, and these factions ARE prepared to go further than just protesting . It is a very dangerous time in many respects , as here in Wales the police have already stated that they are preparing to withdraw their services from the M4 ,due to insufficient  funding . They are also preparing to withdraw cover of major events such as football/rugby matches , pop concerts and the like , also due to a lack of funding . This isn't scaremongering but fact, and it will come into effect on the 6th of April , unless substantial extra funding is applied by the government . Such funding will NOT be forthcoming say the government

I'm sorry but I have seen none of these riot reports which is why I said it was scaremongering(I do watch the news regularly) - if you can prove to me that these are facts and not pure supposition then i will certainly warn my kids - do you think Stirling is countrified enough to be safe?

[sausagesandcash]

No riots yet, but time will tell how patient people on an industrial wgae will be will incompetents getting a mini lottery win for screwing up. Sure god if the wanted someone to screw up the banking system, i'd have done it for half that, so technically the tax payers would be better off 

[rustyme]

hello Annie,
          lol... I doubt you would need worry up there too much .....I think it would be mainly a south east thing with a few other major towns and cities targeted as well....as for proof well here are a few links to ordinary news sites:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUKTRE51M47P20090223
http://www.newstin.co.uk/rel/uk/en-010-011178317
and not a news site but one giving the same sort of  info :
http://www.bitterwallet.com/recession-riots-coming-during-summer-of-mayhem/8167

There are a few other sites that I wouldn't put on here ( too radical or maybe even illegal?) or even give out to anybody . The information is out there , but sometimes it is there for a while and is then taken offline ( By whom you may ask ? )The particular link that mentioned the police training and the armed forces being used , is now a dead link !!!!, but I will have a look to see if I can find it elsewhere.
       Police funding and reduction of cover links:
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2009/02/26/south-wales-police-chief-constable-says-crime-will-flourish-91466-23013931/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7910362.stm
 There was a tv program that mentioned possible civil unrest in the uk later this year , but try as I may I can't remember which one it was or find it on the web......If I find it I will put any info I find on here .

cheers

Russ