Author Topic: Smallholder show for Scotland - will we have to organise our own?  (Read 48499 times)

Beewyched

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Re: Smallholder show for Scotland - will we have to organise our own?
« Reply #45 on: May 05, 2011, 06:48:47 pm »
The OH has just quipped - what about the folk who supply tractors & mini-farm equipment geared towards smallholders - could get them to do displays etc as well as having a stand
ALSO
the realm of SPONSORSHIP  ;)

Oh dear, think we could end-up taking over TAS with this - Annie's idea of an organised online thing sounds good.  Is membership of CSSA needed before being on the sub-committee?
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doganjo

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Re: Smallholder show for Scotland - will we have to organise our own?
« Reply #46 on: May 05, 2011, 07:04:07 pm »
The OH has just quipped - what about the folk who supply tractors & mini-farm equipment geared towards smallholders - could get them to do displays etc as well as having a stand
ALSO
the realm of SPONSORSHIP  ;)

Oh dear, think we could end-up taking over TAS with this - Annie's idea of an organised online thing sounds good.  Is membership of CSSA needed before being on the sub-committee?
I think it would have to be (that's me with my Treasurers hat on) but from 30th June the fees are reduced to £5 per person.  Anyone got other thoughts?  Certainly would have to be put to the Committee first anyway.
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

Beewyched

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Re: Smallholder show for Scotland - will we have to organise our own?
« Reply #47 on: May 05, 2011, 07:09:33 pm »
See you about that on 1st July then Annie  ;) Are you ready for SKA - we've not started trimming the boys yet & one of them's not been done for a couple of months (looks a bit like the W****bix advert at the mo :D ) this shingles seems to have really sapped my energy this time  :(

btw, I love your ticker thing - very cute ;D
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doganjo

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Re: Smallholder show for Scotland - will we have to organise our own?
« Reply #48 on: May 05, 2011, 07:29:40 pm »
Don't need to do much for shows - trim ears a bit, trim bums, hocks and front feet.  Quick dip in the river and we're off.  Just taking two as our judge has given Freckles a CC already and Bobby all over the place with gangly teenager legs.  But have friends coming to stay over that weekend so need to finish decorating the room they'll be in, move the bed through, then clean the house  - and can't be bothered!

I should have said that rate is for the half year to 31/12, but it's £10 for full year (from 1/1/12)
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Beewyched

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Re: Smallholder show for Scotland - will we have to organise our own?
« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2011, 07:39:33 pm »
Will try & look out for you there Annie  :wave:

Decorating AND cleaning - or dear, we've been saying for weeks "when it rains, we'll get round to the cleaning".  Well it's not happened today (the cleaning) just not got the energy (or the inclination) supposed to be having family visitors end of next month so will get the pitch fork out then ;)
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HappyHippy

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Re: Smallholder show for Scotland - will we have to organise our own?
« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2011, 09:27:06 pm »
RBST stand - check  ;D
SPKA stand - check  ;D
SSPCA etc - will look into  ;D
Mini farming equipment - check  ;D
Sponsorship - way ahead of you on that one  ;) But the more the merrier  ;D

But lets wait til the lovely people on the CSSA committee decide if we can be part of their gang before we go rushing ahead - it'll be 2012 for the first one I think, so we've plenty of time to get organised  ;) :wave:

ballingall

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Re: Smallholder show for Scotland - will we have to organise our own?
« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2011, 10:26:14 pm »
"Aye"

Scottish Goatkeepers Federation committee member over here  :wave:

doganjo

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Re: Smallholder show for Scotland - will we have to organise our own?
« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2011, 10:35:59 pm »
I'm wondering now if a completely new organisation should be set up - purely to run the show, with membership of that afforded to all associations in Scotland that pertain to smallholding - such as beekeepers, goatkeepers, pigkeepers, sheepkeepers etc etc - and also any breeders associations.  Each association would provide one(or more) committee member(s) and be responsible for arranging stalls/suggesting show classes which related to their particular discipline; with a finance/administration (maybe taken from the treasurers/secretaries of the other groups plus CSSA) unit as well which would be responsible for raising funds/sending out entry forms/taking in monies/paying expenses etc.

Thoughts?
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HappyHippy

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Re: Smallholder show for Scotland - will we have to organise our own?
« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2011, 10:41:59 pm »
Part of me likes the thought of a completely seperate group BUT at the same time it would be easier (from an organisational point of view) to have it as part of the CSSA.

Depends what everyone else thinks really - I'm happy either way  ;D
Karen  :wave:

SallyintNorth

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Re: Smallholder show for Scotland - will we have to organise our own?
« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2011, 11:16:10 pm »
Belatedly spotting this, confirm this north-of-hadrians-wall but south-of-the-border honorary smallholder will definitely attend - calvings, tup sales, hay-making, etc, permitting...
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Fleecewife

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Re: Smallholder show for Scotland - will we have to organise our own?
« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2011, 01:01:01 am »
Oh let's hope we're not still haymaking in September  ;D ;D

Annie - sheep keepers don't really have an association in Scotland - each breed has it's own breed society which is GB wide, but no single entity to send a single representative

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wildgeese

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Re: Smallholder show for Scotland - will we have to organise our own?
« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2011, 02:37:50 am »
How about energy-related stuff like off-grid electricity, biomass burners, etc.? And water management; water saving, drainage, and so on?

Hedges and fences; maybe someone could talk about hedge-laying or different sorts of hedge management?

 Oatridge college? (Have I got the name right?) They have lots of interesting farm related courses; I'm going on a chainsaw course with them in August.

Would SAC be prepared to have a stand, particularly with regard to things like the regulations for pigs and poultry and food production, to show that as officials they're not ogres.

Also soil fertility; how to test it; how to improve it. Maybe the no-till people would have someone up here who could demonstrate their theories.

Forestry Commission! That seems a bit irrelevant but they are playing a big part in the Orchard projects here because orchards don't fit any existing niche. Mike Strachan in Perth comes up with some interesting stuff. He is so enthusiastic; the only adult to have willingly waded through my hillside spiny plum-sucker thicket.

Cairn O' Mohr wines; they are pretty dynamic; developing elder cultivars for elderflower champagne, making cider, holding wacky races...

If the SSPCA have a stand I shall feel obliged to visit it and interrogate them about their grotesque performance at that stud closure up in Aberdeenshire last year, (Tullynessie? something like that?) as detailed on the Horse and Hound forum. But I doubt they'll want to come unless they get free entry.

HappyHippy

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Re: Smallholder show for Scotland - will we have to organise our own?
« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2011, 09:00:00 am »
Great ideas folks  ;D ;D ;D

Especially like the idea of eco warriors and hedge laying demo's.
Once we get a layout plan of the space available we'll need to sit down and figure out how many stands we can fit in then look at everything we would want to have there.

What other venue's would folks suggest - Thainstone was mentioned, can you give me any more and I'll make contact and enquiries for the future  ;)

Thanks,
Karen  :wave:

doganjo

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Re: Smallholder show for Scotland - will we have to organise our own?
« Reply #58 on: May 06, 2011, 09:35:32 am »
Just got this from a friend in the 'know' - any comments?
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Pigs would probably be a huge no-no because of the health implications. Most shows take pigs straight from shows to the abbatoir because of cross contamination of disease. If they don't, they risk all sorts of things taking them home. What you might find, also, is that some people won't bring other stock if there will be pigs there.

Poultry is pretty easy however you will need a marquee/building and cages.

Cattle don't need stalls, just posts and rails for tethering them.

Goats will need pens, as will sheep, however you can "borrow" them from places ... !

Entry forms can be standardised however you'll need some sort of database to record everything for generating your catalogue etc. Rosettes/prize cards of course and then most agri people expect some prize money too. You will need to use the holding number of whichever venue you decide to use for your cattle passports, however you can get around doing sheep and goat ones as you are not the keeper of the animals, if people bring them and pen them themselves (wee loophole).
Always have been, always will be, a WYSIWYG - black is black, white is white - no grey in my life! But I'm mellowing in my old age

robert waddell

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Re: Smallholder show for Scotland - will we have to organise our own?
« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2011, 09:45:19 am »
sorry doganjo but you friend is so far out on this he /she is on another planet
if this is the RHS entries guy that said this we have an uphill struggle  here :o :o
MR PIG YOUR COMMENTS AND INPUT ARE DESPERATLY NEEDED ON THIS ONE :wave:

 

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