Author Topic: swine flu jab  (Read 18454 times)

RUSTYME

  • Joined Oct 2009
Re: swine flu jab
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2011, 02:22:07 pm »
the Mexico outbreak was a joke in many ways ,( although not a funny one as people were dying) .
The first news came on the tv that an outbreak of pig flu had occurred ( that was their description not mine !), and that it was very contagious . Then the numbers of deaths started to rise a lot , and the name changed to swine flu ( mixed with human flu and bird flu , the actual mix has since been described by many experts as impossible to occur in nature !!).
Still no attempt was made to curb travel to or from Mexico . People were allowed to fly all over the world (remember they already know it is a highly contagious disease and a possible pandemic could arise).
 The death toll continued to rise , but still people were allowed to travel to and from Mexico , although they did now 'advise'? people not to travel there !!!
Then , as strange as it may seem , people in other countries started to get ill with it . Now how could that happen ?  Then the WHO changed the way a pandemic is called . And then they 'restricted' flights from Mexico ( stable doors , horses etc etc etc ! ). Deaths had more or less stopped by this time in Mexico.
 All through this time we were being told how deadly this disease was and that 700,000 people in the UK could die from it, but still no restriction on movement ?.
Nothing about what they did adds up !!! nothing ... not in a good way anyway .
 But they have had a couple of years to improve the strain now , so maybe this time H1N1 will do what 'they' said it would do last time .
  The vaccine was patented nearly 2 years before the outbreak , and yet we are told again and again that you can't create the vaccine till you have the virus ?
http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?topic=5052.0;wap2

cheers

Russ

robert waddell

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Re: swine flu jab
« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2011, 03:29:09 pm »
that is my point rustyme       it was man made BUT BY WHO  AND WHAT IS THERE ULTIMATE GOAL   :wave:

RUSTYME

  • Joined Oct 2009
Re: swine flu jab
« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2011, 03:53:34 pm »
yes as you say by WHO and what is their ultimate goal ?.
 Unicef organised a vaccine in Nigeria , the details of which make for very scary reading :

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2004/mar/04031101

the next article is even scarier , and shows a very dark agenda in place indeed :

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2002/oct/021030a

The WHO has very similar , if not identical agendas within in it's mandate , all is not what it seems !!!

cheers

Russ

AengusOg

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Re: swine flu jab
« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2011, 04:19:45 pm »
ok some facts.
 1 if you or a loved one is gonna die from a disease, you will take any treatment available.
 2  vaccination has saved millions if not billions of lives.
3  evolution takes multiple generations to develop an effective antibody, at the ultimate cost of lives
4 medical science, whilst not perfect is the best chance weve got.
5 the really scary thing is, that the more insular your life is, the more at risk you are.

all the staff on the itu ward i spent every day at had been vaccinated despite the quarantined environment.

as i said b4 you choose to be vaccinated or not, if you are in a position of responsibility for your kids then bl..dy well get it done.

and if you dont get the vaccine, and then get swine flu, then do us all a favour and refuse to be treated in the hope that youll be the lucky bug..r who develops the immunity that saves the rest of us.

1. If.
2. Yet some people have been grossly damaged by vaccines.
3. We have been evolving for millenia.
4. Since the governments of the 'civilised' world discredited and decried natural medicines and those peoples who practiced healing with them, it's all we've bloody got.
5. Nonsense.

Surely ITU staff are vaccinated to protect the patients.

It's precisely my sense of responsibility for my children which has prevented my having them vaccinated.

If.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2011, 11:49:25 am by AengusOg »

sausagesandcash

  • Joined Jan 2009
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    • IrishHandcraft
Re: swine flu jab
« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2011, 05:50:31 pm »
Medical science is a crock...there is no money in cures...but sickness is a billion dollar industry.

shetlandpaul

  • Joined Oct 2008
Re: swine flu jab
« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2011, 07:23:54 pm »
for pity sake. you really believe half this cow dung. here is a fact
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1417414_bcg-jab-would-have-saved-tot-killed-by-tb
this was the attitude that resulted in measles making a come back with deaths and serious illnesses. yes there are very serious reactions to some vaccines but there are many more to the desieses that they are there to prevent. any parent fancy having there kids catching hib,polio or any of the old killers. if the vaccines are not used the diseases will come back and they will kill. its that simple. not a gamble that i would take.

RUSTYME

  • Joined Oct 2009
Re: swine flu jab
« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2011, 08:15:40 pm »
not really the best example to put forward there Paul , as it wasn't due to her mothers refusal to have the child vaccinated , but the inadequacy of the medical profession  and social services , who it would seem,  let the child down .
 Also that's one case ... I could flood this website with literally thousands of proven cases of vaccine reaction illness and death .
 
I do actually believe that vaccines given years ago were better, more effective, and possibly safer , than those used now. Although the use of  alum (aluminum hydroxide), and thimerosal—which is 50 percent ethyl mercury , is questionable to say the least . We know the effects that mercury and aluminium can and do have on humans and both are classed as neurotoxins  .
 The make up of present and new vaccines is somewhat different to those in the past, and at the very least questionable, in regards to safety, efficacy and reason for giving many of the almost unending list of vaccines that are on the cards to be issued over the next few years .
Also, the swine flu 'outbreak' ? is at best highly questionable , and part of the contents of at least one of the vaccines, is actually classed as a biological weapon :

  "  Micropaleontologist Dr. Viera Scheibner conducted research into the adverse effects of adjuvants in vaccines and wrote: Squalene "contributed to the cascade of reactions called " Gulf War syndrome. GIs developed arthritis, fibromyalgia, lymphadenopathy, rashes, photosensitive rashes, malar rashes, chronic fatigue, chronic headaches, abnormal body hair loss, non-healing skin lesions, aphthous ulcers, dizziness, weakness, memory loss, seizures, mood changes, neuropsychiatric problems, anti-thyroid effects, anaemia, elevated ESR (erythrocyte sedimentation rate), systemic lupus erythematosus, multiple sclerosis, deadly Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis, Raynaud's phenomenon with paroxysms of lack of blood in fingers and toes in fingers and toes, Sjorgren's syndrome with blurred vision, chronic diarrhea, night sweats and low-grade fever."

Wikipedia A study linking squalene, as experimental vaccine adjuvant, to individuals with the clinical signs of Gulf War syndrome was published in 2002. A U.S. Federal Judge ruled that there was good cause to believe aqualene to be harmful, and he ordered the Pentagon to stop administering it in October 2004.

Matsumoto says "Squalene is a kind of trigger for (a) real biological weapon," what Soviet researchers called "a biological time bomb!!" He and Dr. Pam Asa conclude that "Oil adjuvants are the most insidious chemical weapon ever devised," including ones with squalene. So what American scientists conceived as a vaccine booster (or what's now being developed in labs) was another 'nano-bomb,' instigating chronic, unpredictable and debilitating disease. Using squalene in vaccines is outlandish and criminal. "

http://www.vierascheibner.org/
 
cheers

Russ

« Last Edit: April 07, 2011, 08:25:35 pm by RUSTYME »

robert waddell

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Re: swine flu jab
« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2011, 08:51:50 pm »
now gulf war syndrome    funny how it is American studies  and no British ones (the Americans were in proper accommodation while the British were in tents sprayed with a concoction of chemicals) the stupid British denied its existence(warble fly were treated with orgaophosphates  the prerunner to bse as were the tents in the gulf  same as sheepdip) o this just gets better and better :wave:

RUSTYME

  • Joined Oct 2009
Re: swine flu jab
« Reply #38 on: April 07, 2011, 09:11:50 pm »
why would we need to carry out studies ? we know we can trust the government and the pharmaceutical companies !! They don't have vested interests in keeping the population sick and unhealthy !!!

cheers


Russ

RUSTYME

  • Joined Oct 2009
Re: swine flu jab
« Reply #39 on: April 07, 2011, 11:42:39 pm »
read my comment, with the most sarcastic tone you can muster in your voice , and you will get my meaning . My sarcasm was directed at the corrupt body of thieves , swindlers , fraudsters , sex offenders , traitors , criminals and liars that is commonly known as the UK government , and the equally corrupt and criminal pharmaceutical companies, that bribe and own afore said corrupt government !!!

 As you say everyone IS just a number to the powers that be .... a 16 digit IBM number in fact , and if you have a passport with the hologram on it , you already have your RFID chip with your very own personal IBM 16 digit number implanted in it .The company that makes the RFID chip is an IBM subsidiary .
 The 16 digit IBM number that everyone has , is just the modern day equivalent of the 5 digit number, that was given to the Jews, dissidents , homosexuals and anyone else that was against the German regime ,  in the 1930's and throughout the second world war. That 5 digit number was also an IBM number . It was created so that the Germans could trace all the Jews etc, via the Hollerith punch card machine ( Hollerith was a subsidiary of IBM since 1922), and also the 1939 census form  ( hope you all filled in your census forms !! the census being run by Lockheed Martin , the American arms manufacturer !!).

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Hollerith.html

http://censusalert.org.uk/

"They also focus on intelligence and surveillance work and boast of their ability to provide ‘integrated threat information’ that combines information from many different sources."

Handy that they are carrying out the UK census then eh ?

So no,  I don't trust the government at all . I would quite happily hang the lot of them ... like I say they are all traitors so that should be their fate anyway.

cheers

Russ

rbarlo32

  • Joined May 2010
Re: swine flu jab
« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2011, 08:38:49 am »
Your mistaken worzel. if the world goverments were trying population control they would stop vaccinating the third world. that action alone would have killed off millions if not more.
Its seems we have a numberof folks posting that would feel at home in montana. If you think our goverment is capable of such a thing then iam impressed by you faith in our goverment. After all they normally mess up everything they touch.

figures from cdc
DISEASE
Measles
Pneumonia: 6 in 100
Encephalitis: 1 in 1,000
Death: 2 in 1,000
2000 deaths per million.

Rubella
Congenital Rubella Syndrome: 1 in 4 (if woman becomes infected early in pregnancy)

VACCINES
MMR
Encephalitis or severe allergic reaction:
1 in 1,000,000

Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis vs. DTap Vaccine
DISEASE
Diphtheria
Death: 1 in 20
50,000 deaths per million

Tetanus
Death: 2 in 10
200,000 deaths per million

Pertussis
Pneumonia: 1 in 8
Encephalitis: 1 in 20
Death: 1 in 1,500

VACCINES
DTaP
Continuous crying, then full recovery: 1 in 1000
Convulsions or shock, then full recovery: 1 in 14,000
Acute encephalopathy: 0-10.5 in 1,000,000
Death: None proven

Rusty have you never had a tetanus injection.


sausagesandcash

  • Joined Jan 2009
  • UK
    • IrishHandcraft
Re: swine flu jab
« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2011, 03:47:29 pm »
No-one is saying no vaccines....but the 'swine flu' vaccine was a different matter. We took an educated, informed decision not to have our kids vaccinated against it. It is not a decision I regret.

rbarlo32

  • Joined May 2010
Re: swine flu jab
« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2011, 06:59:08 pm »
because your kids were lucky. there were at times no high dependancy beds over the winter. lots of parents wishing they had.

robert waddell

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Re: swine flu jab
« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2011, 07:51:09 pm »
well we must be lucky as well  :wave:
well we knew that anyway both of us should have been dead years ago  :o :wave:    long storys  :wave:

sausagesandcash

  • Joined Jan 2009
  • UK
    • IrishHandcraft
Re: swine flu jab
« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2011, 09:00:59 pm »
because your kids were lucky. there were at times no high dependency beds over the winter. lots of parents wishing they had.

Lots of kids get run over crossing the road...perhaps I should cover mine with bubble wrap. The head of the WHO never got vaccinated...do I need to say more??

 

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