[Sandy]

I used to run a cafe in the late 60's-70's and we had a pig swill bin that got collected, how life has changed!!!!! We also used to feed our dogs scaps and dog biscuits and pups had bread and milk or porrage, how different life is now with all the assortment of animal feeds and things aorund!!!!

[northfifeduckling]

and a rule for everything  especially telling each and every one of us what we can do and what we can't, I'm sick of it 

[Leri]

I think if your veg is peeled in a utilty room away from your kitchen - and nowhere near any where where meat or any meat products of any kind are prepared then they are ok. If veg isn't stored in the kitchen and goes off also ok. If your local greengrocer gives you stuff it's ok. But we are not allowed to use our own noggina bout what is safe and sensible to give our pigs!

[ambriel]

It's surprising how many people don't realise there is a moratorium on feeding kitchen scraps to pigs. Several people have commented with surprise when I've told them.

I've had a hard job getting it across to my wife who was going to bring home surplus vegetables and scraps from the school canteen/kitchen.

[ambriel]

I think if your veg is peeled in a utilty room away from your kitchen - and nowhere near any where where meat or any meat products of any kind are prepared then they are ok. If veg isn't stored in the kitchen and goes off also ok. If your local greengrocer gives you stuff it's ok.

I think the problem here is how would you go about proving it if the animal health people (or whoever) challenged you on it or someone made a malicious complaint to them?

Our boys love fresh apples and carrots but I'm always careful to store them in the shed, well away from the house. Just simpler that way.

[Leri]

hmmm - maybe. But then how would they know what they'd eaten anyway!
We get boxes full of stuff from the greengrocer. that has gone past being sellable and that goes straight to the shed as do apples we collect from orchard next door. Then we also use horse carrots in nets - also stored in the shed. I do keep the veg we use out of the kitchen and anything that goes off can go out then. But preparing it out of the kitchen soon went by the wayside unfortunately. Hate throwing the peelings away though!
I have to say though I'd struggle with turning down the surplus veg you talked about!

[katie]

Yup. Whether you sell the eggs or not you are not supposed to give hens (or any livestock) any food which has passed through a kitchen. You can feed them a cabbage pulled from the garden but not if you've had it in the kitchen.  Yes, I know....

[northfifeduckling]

can anyone tell me what the point of this "rule"  is exactly? I just like to understand why I am not allowed to to something with threat of imprisonment. I can understand why I am not supposed to kill people and steal, commit fraud, etc....

[knightquest]

I can understand why I am not supposed to kill people and steal, commit fraud, etc....

Are you not supposed to do those things?

B*gger! 

Ian

[plumseverywhere]

I can understand why I am not supposed to kill people and steal, commit fraud, etc....

Are you not supposed to do those things?

B*gger! 

Ian

  that's given me a much needed laugh! thank you 

[knightquest]

I can understand why I am not supposed to kill people and steal, commit fraud, etc....

Are you not supposed to do those things?

B*gger! 

Ian

  that's given me a much needed laugh! thank you 

You're welcome Lisa. Keep smiling 

Ian

[northfifeduckling]

I am really surprised that you don't know tha t you shouldn't do these things!!!  
now tell me what I don't know   

[Fruit of gods]

One of the reasons that they dont want you to put processed food in your green bins is that it is then taken to a site where it it is dumped and then worms added to break it down, bag it up and sell to the public as compost.
Now if you asked everybody to leave their green bin waste with you, you could use to feed your worms no problem.....
Worms will even eat toxic and are often added to land fill sites to help break things down.
They dont seem to be going down in price either, we bought our Blue Nose Dendrebina's  for £8 kg  and now you would be lookin at more like £15-18 and with retail at up to £26.
They also breed a lot better under insulated conditions all year round instead of just an outdoor bed with no covers being seasonal.
And if you would like any worms and wormeries.
Let us know.
Cheers
Sy

[doganjo]

Have you a website, Symon?

[Fruit of gods]

Not got a web site set up but my other half and I have been working with worm farming for the last 5-7yrs as a diff way of reducing animal waste (pig farms, fisheries and so on) the thing that seems to happen is that the worm farming vcan be as big and as productive as the type of farming its been setup to help.

The good things with worms is that the fisherman love them,
They're some of the best composters
Once theyve eaten all the food they leave behind castings which are like black gold for the gardeners of this world.
And the best of it is, if the fishermen dont want any more or out of season, a fert company will by as much as you can supply at £15kg.

Weve been working with worms and refining low input and high input methods for diff levels of production and with my other half being an old pig farmer, or should I say a young chicken of a pig farmer, she has been cery methodical about how we set up each test bed and measured the results..
As ive said before, if you would like any help with setting up and supply, then please dont hesitate.
Weve been to most if not all of the commercial farms in Europe and no one in the UK, that we know off, have all year round production....
Just wanted to plant a few seeds, or even worms

And if you would like help setting up or would like to find out more, let me know.....

Best way of getting some free plant food from you waste pig, horse, cattle muck!!!!!