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Charlie1234

  • Joined Feb 2017
  • Powys
Panacur 10%
« on: August 04, 2017, 08:15:23 pm »
Due to worm all of my birds this month so contacted my local vets for some Flubenvet however they have none for a few weeks,so instead he offered me Panacur 10%..at a fraction of the cost. Anyone else used it ?
Is it as good or better than Flubenvet.
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snowyriver

  • Joined Dec 2012
  • Montgomeryshire
Re: Panacur 10%
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2017, 10:58:35 pm »
I've used Panacur 10% for pups, but not for poultry sorry, but I would expect that your vet should know if it works.

Charlie1234

  • Joined Feb 2017
  • Powys
Re: Panacur 10%
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2017, 11:04:22 pm »
Cheers Wynn
Im sure they know what they are doing but just curious to see what other peoples experiences with it are..?
As they only charged me £2.00 for enough to worm all of my birds compared to  £30 for Flubenvet.
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Womble

  • Joined Mar 2009
  • Stirlingshire, Central Scotland
Re: Panacur 10%
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2017, 11:21:53 pm »
I've used it before for both ducks and geese (geese are hard to worm by mixing in with food because they eat grass) and nobody died!  The only hassle was that we were told we had to give it orally, three days in a row, which wasn't the easiest task with half a dozen identical looking ducks. We found the best method for was for one person to hold the duck and open its beak, whilst a second person put a syringe right into the duck's mouth and squirted it down over the back of its tongue.

There was also some considerable debate as to the correct dosage for poultry, so make sure your vet looks it up. I'd definitely use it again though.

BTW, when I last checked, it was cheaper to buy the layers pellets with Flubenvet pre-mixed than it was to buy a tub containing the same quantity of flubenvet on its own. HTH!

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landroverroy

  • Joined Oct 2010
Re: Panacur 10%
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2017, 11:31:27 pm »
Yes I use Panacur 10% on my birds. It's the same class of wormer as Flubenvet. It has a high safety margin and can be used for most (if not all) classes of livestock, including humans.
As well as administering it in food you can also add it to water, again for at least 3 days. Or even 5.
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Eve

  • Joined Jul 2010
Re: Panacur 10%
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2017, 11:12:12 am »
It can go in water? That'll make my life a lot easier!  :)  Need to pop into vet's next week anyway so will ask. Thanks!

Charlie1234

  • Joined Feb 2017
  • Powys
Re: Panacur 10%
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2017, 12:03:20 pm »
When we were commercial egg farmers we used a specialist poultry vet and we still communicate now as we built a good relationship over 40 years of Business,I spoke to them earlier today and they confirmed it is a suitable product and the dosage was correct that my local vet had given.. :thumbsup:

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Womble

  • Joined Mar 2009
  • Stirlingshire, Central Scotland
Re: Panacur 10%
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2019, 02:19:22 pm »
There was also some considerable debate as to the correct dosage for poultry, so make sure your vet looks it up.

Dammit! Ruined by my own advice! I now wish I'd been more helpful to my future self! ;D

I just picked up a bottle of Panacur 10% for our new ducks, and the vet has written the dose on the label as 20mg/kg by mouth each day for three consecutive days.

However, say a duck weighs 2kg (I haven't weighed one yet), that would only be 0.4 ml per dose, and I'm quite sure the last time we had it, we used more than that. For reference, the rate for puppies and kittens is 50 mg/kg, i.e. 0.5ml/kg daily for three days.

Can anyone confirm that  0.2 ml/kg is the correct dose for waterfowl please?
« Last Edit: April 06, 2019, 02:21:10 pm by Womble »
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landroverroy

  • Joined Oct 2010
Re: Panacur 10%
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2019, 09:56:21 pm »
I would look it up on the internet Womble. As I said in an earlier post on here, it has a very high safety margin, so you're not going to kill them if you don't get it exactly right.
If you can't find the rate for birds, then work it out pro rata from the rate for dogs. Single stomach animals require a higher dose rate than that for ruminants, so I think it's something like 4x the rate for sheep and for 5 days.
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