Author Topic: The N K Venture  (Read 51053 times)

Hilarysmum

  • Joined Oct 2007
Re: The N K Venture
« Reply #135 on: July 20, 2010, 09:06:57 am »
Are those blonde mangalitsas?   Am extremely envious ....

smiffy

  • Joined Jun 2008
    • http://www.northmoor-rarebreeds.com/
Re: The N K Venture
« Reply #136 on: July 20, 2010, 05:42:09 pm »
they were blonde once HM  ;D

smiffy

  • Joined Jun 2008
    • http://www.northmoor-rarebreeds.com/
Re: The N K Venture
« Reply #137 on: August 13, 2010, 09:24:20 pm »
Waiting for an update  ;D i still remember our 1st year

Jackie

  • Joined Nov 2009
Re: The N K Venture
« Reply #138 on: August 14, 2010, 07:07:14 am »
Thanks for the reminder Tracie.  ;D

Ive been twice to the farm since I have posted so Ill go back and write it in order, if I remember properly lol

This time I went back I was worried because we had the intial visit from our Animal Health person so we scooted around tidying up the farmyard. God alone knows how many bits of string we picked up!!

As it happened we had to go out to get some food for us the day of the proposed visit and she was waiting for us when we got back. I signalled to my son to make sure the baby pigs had water cos they turn the bowl over and she walked with us and caught us doing that but she understood we dont really keep the piggies short of water.

She walked slowly with us round the farm asking questions and with me gabbing away about anything and everything as I do when Im nervous (hubby says I vomit information) but I needent have worried Stacy (thats her name) was lovely. In fact she was so sweet I could have sat her on my lap and patted her back like you do with young kids. ;D

After the walk round we went into what passes for the kitchen where my son made us all a coffee and we sat and went over the paper work which I hadnt filled in so she showed me how to.
 I also told her that we had buried a lamb and the reasons why we had, she said that she didnt think there would be any action taken against me but that it wasnt her decision. She also gave me the knacker mans phone number.
Stacy stayed chatting for over 3 hours, she is lovely and I was encouraging her to go to university and getting DEFRA to pay for it.
On leaving Stacy said the she visits each farm once every year and I said "Oh no you must call in when passing to have some coffee and cake." she was THAT nice.

She wrote on my inspection form 'I am impressed with the set up and the owner is very knowlegable about the needs of her animals.'  Yay!! Go Us!!!

1 week later we got a letter saying that 'due to my honesty being refreshing' about telling her that I buried the lamb and as I didnt know any better there was no further action but dont do it again.' Phew!

Ah and now back to that little escaped pig. It has been seen loads of times. We get phone calls about it, our neighbours get phone calls about it. We had 2 articulated lorry drivers that skidded to a halt by the refinery and tried to catch it come and tell us. We have had the security lady in full uniform come tell us about it, BUT WE CANT CATCH IT!!!

I have taken a bucket of pig pooh and another of pig food to lead it onto our land as its only in the next field munching on peas. Oh yeh the tractor driver that was ploughing the field came and told us too!

We wondered if we should advertise a 'Pig Hunt' to get this dam pig back!!

Seriously 7 of us are going out to get this pig with beach wind breaks with the poles removed between each of us to funnel the pig into a dog crate, so if you can imagine how we will look a sort of circle closing in that will only leave the pig one way to go. Wish us luck!!!

The geese had been gradually let into an area that is approx 1/2 acre as they eat the grass the area gets bigger and last week I saw them take a run up to fly out of that area but they are too heavy to take off, so now they wriggle under the fence and usually to be found loose over the whole 5 acres. Im not worried as they do come back when I shout 'bedtime' or if Im late and its getting dark they are in bed waiting for me to lock the door. Clever little goosies!

The kenells and cattery are now just about finished and next week we will ask for the inspection for the licence. Hoorah some money coming in!

We had a letter from the council saying that we had locked the gate to the public footpath through our land and without even checking they sent us that nasty letter accompanied by photos of 2 months before we even owned the place!!!  I asked for the council woman to come out and actually see and that next time she should check not rely on a complaint that was untrue.
Now we have gates either side of the footpath cos our lambs are loose, she tried to tell us we couldnt have gates even if we had livestock!! Yeh right!! Im not as green as Im cabbage looking Mrs!!!
Oh and I lock these gates at 10pm although she doesnt like that cos noone walks their dogs at 10pm over a field unless they are up to trouble and my place has been broken into several times before we got it. I have the backing of the police for this and have many incident/crime numbers to back me up.
As my husband now says 'Jackies got a battle to fight and is girding her loins and sharpening her talons.' He knows me well as I love to be told 'No' when someone is wrong so I go into battle.
My most famous 'battle' was to make Tesco change their wages policy throughout the whole group which cost them mega bucks.

We had one thing happen that actually turned my stomach and made me think hard about owning chickens.
I know chickens are carivores and sometimes peck each others vents but we had been out for most of the day after feeding and watering the animals and when we got back we saw something in the middle of the field so one of the lads hopped the fence and borught it to us. It was a dead chicken that had ALL of its inards eaten out!! Everything was gone and the cavity was clean.
Poor, poor chicken. I wonder at what point in being eaten alive did it die?
The chickens are fed well and are in a half acre area so not over crowded for 33 chickens, why?

My son pointed out that chickens are actually the nearest living thing to dinosaurs we have now, as if that helped! It didnt.

As some of us do on here I chat on Facebook too so decided to advertise my meat for sale and I sold 3 chickens in Melton. Each one was 8.5lbs when cleaned, 12lbs before being defeathered etc. Not bad weights and they taste great, or they did.

I really ought to get on finding buyers for my meat or Im gonna be stuck with loads of animals lol or freezers!

Les has made me a fantastic bathroom and because I have been a bit short tempered with him he thought I would moan at him for it but I just went 'WOW' when I saw it.
I have a sunken extra large whirlpool bath that whizzes out water AND air. On the wall by the bath is a glass shelf for my wine glass and book and over the bath is 3 ceiling lights that work on a dimmer switch. OH heaven!!
We have a huge shower cubicle that could fit a rugby team in, the idea sounds good but I think hubby may moan with them there, I wouldnt.:)

Anyway that was that visit.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2010, 05:59:25 am by Jackie »

Hilarysmum

  • Joined Oct 2007
Re: The N K Venture
« Reply #139 on: August 14, 2010, 08:15:13 am »
Hi Jackie, lovely update.  Re the escaped piglet.  It may be that leaving food and water and plenty of straw in the cage (possibly covering part of the cage to "disguise it " allowing the piglet to find the food and to visit regularly.  Once you know it is feeding, perhaps take a book and a chair and sit some distance away until it goes in for the food?  Its just a thought. 

Jackie

  • Joined Nov 2009
Re: The N K Venture
« Reply #140 on: August 14, 2010, 01:50:21 pm »
I can certainly try that HM Ill try anything because hubby is starting to say that if it causes a car/van/lorry accident we are liable for the costs :(( My son did ask if we could get a vet in with a dart gun to anaesthetise it but it would cost way to much. Eventually it will have to be a man with a gun.

Hilarysmum

  • Joined Oct 2007
Re: The N K Venture
« Reply #141 on: August 15, 2010, 10:17:14 am »
If the cage doesnt work or is too unwealdy, then a bucket containing pig nuts (they love the smell) moved a little each time to get him closer to where your pigs are.  Please dont give up George disappeared for exactly 2 months and came home in the back of my friend's brand new car (what a friend  :D )

Jackie

  • Joined Nov 2009
Re: The N K Venture
« Reply #142 on: December 02, 2010, 06:51:00 pm »
Ok I have been asked to continue posting about Nk so here goes guys. You asked for it! lol

We had a visit from Animal health as the lost pig had been reported to them but when he came out we had a god chat and told him all that we had been doing to get the pig and he was ok about it all. However, the lost pig really is lost now as we have been back to the field it was in and there is no sign of it. I guess someone must have shot it when it got big enough to eat. I hope they enjoyed it.  :)

My turkeys are all grown now and just about ready for slaughter for Christmas. They have been on finisher pellets for the last month and are still kept inside to make for bigger birds.

The geese have now been confined to a much smaller area with access to food 24/7 to gain weight for Christmas. They are looking good and Ive enjoyed having geese so may keep a few for eggs in the spring. I certainly will be going to Norfolk to get more next year. They are mucky creatures but once you accept that they are easy to look after and great grass - meat converters.


The pigs are doing ok except with those last 6 (7 with the lost pig)) pigs we bought there was a runty one that never thrived and eventually I fed her separately from the others so she would actually eat. unfortunately Martyn went out to feed them one morning and the runty one had been kicked out of the pig house and had spent the night in the cold. She lay there shivering and couldn't stand so we put her in the puppy pen with a heat lamp and a deep straw bed. Every day I would go in and feed her off a fork and give her fluid via an oral syringe as she still couldn't stand or keep her head up. As soon as the vets opened on the Monday I ordered some antibiotics and gave then to her over a course of 3 days. She didn't survive.

Can you remember when I told you about Ozzie the pigs and his abscess? Well after that Ozzie was never any good or particularly healthy and 2 weeks ago started to go down again and eventually off his back legs. This time I didn't even try antibiotics because he was never really well so we called the knacker man, Ozzie died before he could get to us.

Tracy (Smiffy) has been very good cos I wondered if we were doing anything wrong with our pigs to have lost 2 like that but she reassured us that as we didn't know what mix was in the pigs the chances are that they were never 'right' from the word go. I did remember we got the last lot of pigs when they were 4-5 weeks ld and very tiny and a very diverse mixed bunch they were too!

The sheep are all doing ok and I'm looking to send the wethers to slaughter before Christmas plus a couple of boars we have that are big enough to go. lol We have 2 kune kunes that should have gone months ago but as they jump up on the fence to say hello everyday it looks like they are now staying to breed from.

Because the weather has been so bad I have opened up the chicken house (its a hugehexagonal shaped building with 24 chicken pens in plus a large area in the middle) and made a deep straw bed for the sheep to shelter in cos I'm a slop where animals are concerned lol

We have now relocated both adult cats to the farm now and Charlie the older one is fine and lives in the house but Enzo the half feral lives in the shed where we keep some straw, although Martyn said he saw him inside the cattery early one morning as it must have been too cold outside for him. We now deliberately prop the door of the cattery open for him.

As I'm back at Melton with no animals with them all being transfered to the farm I bought a lovely little female kitten. She is black and white and I was hoping going to be fluffy but she isn't. Martyn names her Gypsy which I like so kept. Alfie my grandson thinks we got her just for him and they play hide and seek around the furniture.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2010, 07:13:21 pm by Jackie »

Hilarysmum

  • Joined Oct 2007
Re: The N K Venture
« Reply #143 on: December 03, 2010, 09:11:56 am »
I really enjoyed reading that, thanks for taking the time.  Looking forward to the next posting.

sheila

  • Joined Apr 2008
  • Mablethorpe Lincolnshire
Re: The N K Venture
« Reply #144 on: December 03, 2010, 11:24:31 am »
wizard would have been so proud of what you have acheived. do keep us posted. It's facinating reading about your venture.

Helencus

  • Joined Feb 2010
  • NW Leicestershire
Re: The N K Venture
« Reply #145 on: December 03, 2010, 05:07:19 pm »
Funny I was just thinking of him and how much he would've enjoyed the update. Keep us posted thanks Jackie.

Jackie

  • Joined Nov 2009
Re: The N K Venture
« Reply #146 on: December 09, 2010, 05:09:45 pm »
I miss George loads as everytime we do something major towards getting NK finished I wish he could see it. George was one of the most entertaining, kindly gentlemen I have ever met and I will never forget him.

Ok Ill start now on telling you about the kennels and the footpath right of way.

The lady from the council sent letter to the parish council about our proposed move of the footpath and apparently the parish council has a meeting about us and we weren't told about this meeting so didn't attend!!! Grrrr!

We heard about the meeting afterwards from a guy who was there and was walking his dog through our land and Les got chatting to him.
What really annoyed me was that he said that a parish councillor had said at the meeting "We didn't move the footpath for HARA so why should we for them!" That is soo biased.  >:(
 I reported what the guy told us to the council woman and the upshot is that she has told the parish council that there will be an on-site meeting  because it seems as though they are saying the new proposed route floods. It doesn't!!!

Prior to my phone call to the council and after I heard what was said at the meeting I stormed around to the chairman of the parish councils house initially I was going to be calm and nice. You know more flies caught with honey than vinegar etc. But I was as subtle as a sledgehammer and my voice rose higher and higher and got louder and louder as I spoke to him and he looked down his nose at me. Les kept saying "lets go Jackie" as he could see me getting really angry. In the end I finally got my point across that I wanted a copy of the minutes of the parish council meeting and if that nasty comment about not closing the footpath for us cos they didn't do it for HARA isn't in there I shall report them for inaccuracy and false minutes which can mean that the parish council is forced to disband!!! That'll teach the buggers!!! ;lol

Right by the side of our land used to be an old footpath but the people in the houses backing on to it have pinched it and it is now part of about 8 gardens. The council went nuts at them and demanded it back but the people fought it and they have been allowed to keep the land and the footpath has been rerouted. 3 parish councillors live along that footpath!!! One rule for them and a different one for us it seems!!!!

So thats that until after the site meeting and right now we have no idea when that is going to be scheduled but I don't want to push it in case I annoy the council woman cos so far shes on our side.

The kennels are finished and look great! However with everything else thats going on and it being so near Christmas we haven't applied for the licence again.

I'm not too fussed about the cattery licence until after Christmas as we need the cattery kitchen for the licence to kill and dress the geese for sale. We have to have a separate kitchen to dress the geese which is away from the slaughter and plucking area. I have to apply to the Animal health dept for this licence and I'm selling them at Melton Mowbray Christmas market, hopefully they will fetch £50 each as we need some money back from the animals cos we haven't sold much.

The first stage of the house is almost finished now and the upstairs is carpeted. Les has bought new beds for each room and I'm told it looks great. Les has bought a mahogany sleigh bed for us and cos it cost such a lot he sent me a pic via his phone to Stacy's phone so i could say yay or nay about it. I would have preferred a walnut bed but there wasn't one and the bedroom is big enough to take the dark wood.

I don't know if I have said but I ordered a wing chair in pink white and gold for my mums bedroom so that she can retreat when she cant cope and it has now been made so we need to pick that up. Mum has a reading area within her bedroom which has a table, lamp and chair plus she has a TV on the wall. She also has a walk in wardrobe to die for!!!

Martyn has already moved into his new bedroom along with his computer and world of warcraft so Les doesn't see him at anytime in the evening.
The front room/sitting room carpet is being laid next week along with the hall stairs and landing carpet.
The downstairs guest bedroom had been walled off from the bathroom there and has been carpeted but the bed we are putting in there is a daybed and is still in Melton.

The living room carpet is being laid next week too and the kitchen cabinets are being moved nearer the outside door so we can put up a safety gate so that Alfie (grandson) cant get out.

The offices are being converted into bedrooms for our guests at New year. This will be temporary as when we get to stage 2 in the building work they are being converted into a huge kitchen and play room and sitting room.

Enjoy!
« Last Edit: December 09, 2010, 05:11:37 pm by Jackie »

knightquest

  • Joined May 2010
  • Birmingham
    • Knight Pet Supplies
Re: The N K Venture
« Reply #147 on: December 09, 2010, 07:36:21 pm »
Keep the updates coming Jackie. It's great to hear all about how someone starts and builds up a smallholding especially as it's unlikely that we'll start one. What energy that we have left will be chanelled through to you in your endeavours.

All the best,

Ian
Ian (me), Diane (my wife) and 4 dogs. Ollie (Lab mix) , Quest (Malamute), Gazer and Boris (Leonbergers)

Helencus

  • Joined Feb 2010
  • NW Leicestershire
Re: The N K Venture
« Reply #148 on: December 09, 2010, 08:05:46 pm »
Thank Jackie, good luck with the fight to move the footpath but don't let it ruin your enjoyment of NK. We found our battle with neighbours and council over the stables planning nearly took over our lives and started to ruin our enjoyment of our smallholding, dont let them grind you down.

Jackie

  • Joined Nov 2009
Re: The N K Venture
« Reply #149 on: December 09, 2010, 08:19:33 pm »
Thanks Ian I will remember that you are sending some energy to me when Im trudging through the snow to feed and water the animals. lol

Why wont you start a smallholding?

Yes Helen you are right the hassle is starting to get me down and considering we have owned NK for 7 or 8 months I dont know anyone in the village despite invited people around for coffee when I see them. They are soo very insular and Im very outgoing so Im worried about even making one friend.

 

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