[daniellestocks]

Sadly my father in law is the same, he drowned an accidental litter of pups the other year!   
We had an accidental litter whilst he was in hopital, the terrier got the spaniel and had 8! i took it upon myself to find every a home!

[sabrina]

does your father in law know he could go to jail for drowning pups or kittens. 

[Wizard]

Did you read my post sabrina or are you another bunny hugger No offence but do read the written word Then comment on what you think you have read if you must. I doubt father would be much bothered about going to goal he died in 1975. You are right Dixie it was the done way I have not been drowned yet but I am told its a much better way of being dispatched than being thrown at the barn wall.Since you seem to want to know I will tell you I think cats are the worst of all pets they stalk and kill birds They climb up to the nests and awk out the fledgelings and kill them in fact they are horrid bloody things are cats,Not a friend of the gardeners either I assure you

[Hilarysmum]

Sadly my father in law is the same, he drowned an accidental litter of pups the other year! 

does your father in law know he could go to jail for drowning pups or kittens. 

Did you read my post sabrina or are you another bunny hugger No offence but do read the written word Then comment on what you think you have read if you must. I doubt father would be much bothered about going to goal he died in 1975.

Wizard Sabrina was quite clearly answering Daniel Stocks. 

[daniellestocks]

i have no idea?? but it doesnt stop traditional old farmers from doing thing the their way some just dont move on with the times, and laws for that matter! i think its awful some of the techniques they use on animals

[Hilarysmum]

In our former part of Dorset the local vets offered farmers free speying for cats and dogs to help control the unwanted kittens and puppies in the local sanctuaries.  They were extremely disappointed at the very small number who took up the offer. 

[marigold]

yep I remember those days too. My Mum used to leave the mother cat one kitten to look after so that she didn't fret too much. - she was a softy.

[Wizard]

That was also done by a lot of folk in the country.There were no bunny hugging softies People couldn't afford it.Some still can not even now but theres the Blue Cross now.and refuges as well

[marigold]

'Bunny huggers' is such a great expression.
You could divide any room by bunny huggers and non-bunny huggers
I think i might save the concept and use it at work when things get boring.

Back to the original subject - or almost - isn't there a book about the onion eaters or is that the lotus eaters?

[Hilarysmum]

No think its the Lotus Eaters, didnt they live somewhere warm

[Wizard]

Hey up Hilary'smum I haven't heard of that one Now let me take you back 60yrs or so The cattle food came in 140lbs sacks (10 ston) around 63kg to you maybe.For me do it in the eaad int wot is woz you know.This bag would contain Dried sugarbeet pulp nuts and things called LOTUS BEANS they were a large flat kidney bean type maybe a foot or more long and  11/2" wide of a dark chocolate brown colour with small even darker seeds in.Us boys could swap these beans for all sorts because they had a most peculiar flavour and extremely sweet.I have looked in Wikki and Brittanica There are 200,000 species in Legumes but I have as yet failed to find a match.The word Lotus also brings to mind Lotus Blossom which is an aquatic Plant often mistaken for a water lily.There hows that for a load of useless info and its only Tuesday

[Wizard]

Ps Whats that lass warm ent felt any outside for the ages of a crow