[mowhaugh]

This afternoon we dropped Doreen, our Large Black sow, off for a wee romantic holiday with a very handsome chap called Bill, also known as Hangingchadder Majestic.  I was very nervous, but she walked straight into the trailer, travelled well and came out sensibly at the other end, and her and Bill seemed very pleased with each other, although she did wee on his head - is that a good sign???  Hopefully I will pick her up in a few days time, and hopefully we'll have LB piglets, very excited!

[HappyHippy]

 
It's great when all goes to plan like that, we dropped our OSB Daisy off for service with a GOS boar yesterday too. They were, ahem, 'getting to know' each other within minutes of her walking into the pen, right way round to begin with before trying out some less conventional methods 
Note the date and keep a close eye on her in 3 weeks time - I'm keeping everything crossed for you (and me) 

[Sudanpan]

Good luck with the 'romantic visit' 


However - doesn't moving a pig onto a holding result in a 'stand still' period before you can collect Doreen? (I think  it's 20 days but I might be mistaken)

[shygirl]

However - doesn't moving a pig onto a holding result in a 'stand still' period before you can collect Doreen? (I think  it's 20 days but I might be mistaken)

thats what i was thinking. didnt you just get delilah and therefore be on standstill? or do you have a registered quarantine pen? 
also how can she come home in a few days? its definitely 20 days standstill in scotland.
whoops

[sokel]

I could be wrong but I understood the standstill was for anything moving off your holding  unless it was going for slaughter, If something comes on the standstill starts from when the last animal came on  ?  Thats what defra told us anyway 

Oops just read the thread and its the holding she is going to stay on  that will be on a standstill

[shygirl]

I could be wrong but I understood the standstill was for anything moving off your holding  unless it was going for slaughter, If something comes on the standstill starts from when the last animal came on  ?  Thats what defra told us anyway 

Oops just read the thread and its the holding she is going to stay on  that will be on a standstill

they just bought a new pig (delilah) 5 days ago so i dont see how the other pig (doreen) could leave for stud unless there is an approved quarantine pen, which then reduces the standstill to a week (i think)
im intrigued. maybe they have separate holdings.

[mowhaugh]

We do have an approved quarantine area for new stock arriving onto the farm.  We registered it during the foot and mouth outbreak in 2001 and have kept the registration up ever since, in fact our replacement signs for 2014 just arrived last week.  It is completely separated from the rest of our farm by a road, and from our neighbours' farm by the river.  There is no standstill in place when using this area.

I understood I could collect Doreen because the guidance says that pigs moving onto a holding trigger a standstill on OTHER pigs, i.e. not Doreen, but I shall ring ScotEID first thing on Monday and ask their advice.

Pleased I intrigued you, thought I was just sharing some exciting news.

[Berkshire Boy]

You can't move Doreen for 20 days. Also you should leave her with the boar for 3 weeks after serving to make sure he has caught her.

[shygirl]

ahh, a solution! :

just out of curiosity - what is the standstill for the quarantine - is it a week? and how long is the standstill when they move from quarantine back to the main holding? is it 20 days again?

fingers crossed for lots of piglets 

[mowhaugh]

Thank you for the advice re Doreen, she will stay where she is for the allocated time.  Shygirl, there is no standstill associated with the quarantine, I could actually find the letter as we just had ours renewed on the 19th.

It says:

The Disease Control (Interim Measures) (Scotland) Order 2002 (as amended) prohibits any movement of Foot & Mouth susceptible animals OFF a holding where stock have been moved on to that holding in the preceeding 13 days (20 days if pigs).  Keepers of animals can apply for an authorised separation agreement to avoid this 13/20 day standstill.

Your Separation Agreement was authorised by us because you meet the necessary criteria and standards of biosecurity.  Your agreement allows you to move stock off your holding even though stock have been brought onto your holding within the preceeding 13/20 days of the intended movement off date.

Please note that we undertake inspections to ensure you continue to compley with your agreement requirements.


Hope that helps a bit.  We were lucky in that because of the layout of the farm, we have a field that is completely separated by road and river from any other land, and is already double fenced in that there is a fence either side of the road, and either side of the river, so it already met the criteria without us having to do any additional work.