Author Topic: Sorry to do this again.... but. Freddie....  (Read 17245 times)

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
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Re: Sorry to do this again.... but. Freddie....
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2013, 10:39:54 am »
Change your vet.

This last thing that we have to do for our friends is hard enough, without the vet being unsupportive.

I think I am right in saying that human medics swear an oath to preserve life, which makes it very hard for them to assist someone to slip away.  Vets tell me that they are so very glad that they do not have to swear that same oath, but rather to prevent suffering, so that makes these decisions easier and enables them to end an animal's suffering.

It sounds as though your vet has difficulty recognising when an animal is suffering and quality of life has gone.

As to your decision - and it is your decision, not the vet's - about Freddie.  It sounds as though you know it's time.  Frankly, finding my dog stuck on his back when I return home, not knowing how long he's been like that, would be something I couldn't bear to see three times.  You need support to tell your vet what needs to happen. 

Personally I would ask to see a different vet who will not make this more difficult than it is going to be in any case.  If I lived near to you I would offer to come with you for moral support.  :bouquet:

Looking back over my life and dogs and cats, I do sometimes wonder whether I made this or that decision a little too swiftly and should have given this dog or that cat another few weeks, another op, whatever.  But on the whole I feel it is better to not be looking back at prolonging suffering than to be wondering whether any particular animal could have had another few good days after a 17 year innings.

And one that I do recall was a wonderful cat, who at 16 had a leg amputated with what turned out to be an aggressive tumour at the site of an old injury.  He never really recovered from the op but could still purr and want to be with me - but was off his food, barely able to walk, not anywhere near wanting to go out and about, and nothing like his former active larger-than-life self.  For weeks I struggled with balancing giving him enough time to recover from the op with worrying about how hard he was clearly finding it all.  One day I was sure I couldn't watch him go on like this any longer, and we'd had the histology by then so we knew the tumour was aggressive and therefore secondaries were highly likely.  I took him in, and to this day I am positive he knew exactly what was happening and thanked me for giving him peace.
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cans

  • Joined May 2013
Re: Sorry to do this again.... but. Freddie....
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2013, 03:26:43 pm »
Speaking from experience with our 15year old collie cross who was incontinent and occasionally had fits which gradually got worse.  We knew when it was time after one fit she had as the look on her face said it all  -  she had had enough.  Phoned the vet straight away and took her to be PTS.  Brought her home and laid her to rest at the bottom of the garden.  That was a hard decision as we were due to go on holiday, dog as well, the following day.
It sounds like the time has come  :hug: :bouquet:

doganjo

  • Joined Aug 2012
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Re: Sorry to do this again.... but. Freddie....
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2013, 08:56:03 pm »
A friend of mine had a dog from me a number of years ago.  During play with his heavier older dog he banged his head against a metal barn door. After that he had the occasional fit, and then one day he went into a coma following a fit.  Steve's vet had that poor dog on a drip and taking bloods from him for two days before I had to step in and tell him to let him go.

For goodness sake don't wait 10 days just because you agreed this with your vet - and get a second opinion if you  feel it is necessary, but from what you say on here my own opinion is that Freddie is now being experimented on by your vet.
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Kitchen Cottage

  • Joined Oct 2012
Re: Sorry to do this again.... but. Freddie....
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2013, 09:29:16 am »
Doganjo is right.

I have made the appointment for 1pm today.

A little piece of me will die today  :'( :'( :'( :'(

I am trying not to cry because it will upset the dogs but I am not succeeding :(

AnnS

  • Joined Aug 2011
Re: Sorry to do this again.... but. Freddie....
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2013, 09:56:47 am »
I really think you have made the right decision. It's never easy but you have to put your dog first.


AnnS

Fleecewife

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Re: Sorry to do this again.... but. Freddie....
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2013, 11:25:20 am »
Well done Kitchen Cottage - you're doing the right thing for Freddie.  Think back to the good times when he was young and full of beans.   :hug:
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SallyintNorth

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Re: Sorry to do this again.... but. Freddie....
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2013, 12:16:14 pm »
Well done sweetie.  :bouquet: :hug:

Best of luck, try to hold the tears back until he is gone if you can.  We'll be here later if you want to talk.

Bless you for doing this last thing for Freddie  :-*
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Bionic

  • Joined Dec 2010
  • Talley, Carmarthenshire
Re: Sorry to do this again.... but. Freddie....
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2013, 12:21:09 pm »
KG, you know you have made the right decision for you and more importantly for Freddie.  :bouquet: :bouquet:
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Kitchen Cottage

  • Joined Oct 2012
Re: Sorry to do this again.... but. Freddie....
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2013, 02:39:22 pm »
It is done

I spent the morning stress vomiting and shaking, the dogs knew something was wrong.

I vomited and howled (literally) all the way back from the vet and sobbed for the last hour.

But it is done.

SallyintNorth

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Re: Sorry to do this again.... but. Freddie....
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2013, 02:45:59 pm »
 :hug:  Freddie is at peace now  :hug:
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darkbrowneggs

  • Joined Aug 2010
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Re: Sorry to do this again.... but. Freddie....
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2013, 02:51:19 pm »
Well done and have a good cry as well.


Just remember that he couldn't have lived much longer, and you would have been just as upset and at least he is not suffering any more.


Dogs take such a large part of our hearts.  My eyes a filling with tears for you as I type, but not tears for Freddie.  He is running freely and happily I am sure.
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suziequeue

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Re: Sorry to do this again.... but. Freddie....
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2013, 02:51:46 pm »
 :hug: :hug:
Brave. Well done.
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Humblepie

  • Joined Dec 2013
Re: Sorry to do this again.... but. Freddie....
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2013, 06:05:19 pm »
bless you, it must be heartbreaking. he was a good age though  :hug:

Bramblecot

  • Joined Jul 2008
Re: Sorry to do this again.... but. Freddie....
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2013, 06:25:03 pm »
Well done and have a good cry as well.


Just remember that he couldn't have lived much longer, and you would have been just as upset and at least he is not suffering any more.


Dogs take such a large part of our hearts.  My eyes a filling with tears for you as I type, but not tears for Freddie.  He is running freely and happily I am sure.

My thoughts too. :hug: .  Think of him at peace now, no more pain. 

Mammyshaz

  • Joined Feb 2012
  • Durham
Re: Sorry to do this again.... but. Freddie....
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2013, 06:29:14 pm »
 :hug:  :hug:  :hug: it was time  :bouquet:

 

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