[lizzypeg]

im going to call defra/animal health on Monday but wondered if anyone knew the answer to this on here.

im going to take on two sheep from my friend...we both rent adjoining land...both have separate cph numbers but the land is all rented from same farm.

our fields are adjoining with a gate between them...all il need to do is open gate to walk the two into my field...

do I need to fill out a movement form as they wont be travelling at such..

if not how to the governing bodies know that they sheep are now in my name...

[Fleecewife]

As you have separate CPH numbers and it's a change of ownership, you need to fill out a movement doc.  If it emerges that you didn't need to, well it's not difficult to do and it's better to be over keen than in trouble.  It will keep your and your friend's books right.

[lizzypeg]

hi  yeah I figured it would be easier to do one anyway , just in case.thanks for clarifying

[Bramblecot]

We have a similar situation when we borrowed our neighbour's ram.  She was picked up on an inspection that she had not filed the paperwork that I gave her .  It is easier to do it (sigh).

[lachlanandmarcus]

Yep breeding ram loan is an odd one, they don't trigger the normal standstill when they are moved but you still have to do the movement docs and submit them as normal.

[Tim W]

Yep breeding ram loan is an odd one, they don't trigger the normal standstill when they are moved but you still have to do the movement docs and submit them as normal.

Not true---any movement on triggers a standstill unless you have approved isolation premises

[langfauld easycare]

breeding rams/bulls and foster calf /lambs do not trigger standstill . in scotland anyway

[lachlanandmarcus]

Yep breeding ram loan is an odd one, they don't trigger the normal standstill when they are moved but you still have to do the movement docs and submit them as normal.

Not true---any movement on triggers a standstill unless you have approved isolation premises

Ummm TRUE check the regs, for Scotland at least!!


Here we go, under sheep, then exemptions right hand column......http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/farmingrural/Agriculture/animal-welfare/Diseases/MovementRestrictions/ExemptHTML

[Tim W]

Yep breeding ram loan is an odd one, they don't trigger the normal standstill when they are moved but you still have to do the movement docs and submit them as normal.

Not true---any movement on triggers a standstill unless you have approved isolation premises

Ummm TRUE check the regs, for Scotland at least!!


Here we go, under sheep, then exemptions right hand column......http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/farmingrural/Agriculture/animal-welfare/Diseases/MovementRestrictions/ExemptHTML

Different down here I think you will find----why the exemptions?

[lachlanandmarcus]

I don't know, but I'm pretty sure it hasn't led to there being more disease up here. Perhaps they work on the basis that of you are putting a ram to all your ewes, you probably have taken care to ensure you know about its history and health before you do that. That's certainly the case with all the people I know who do it.


Also there maybe aren't so many sales outlets up here live auction wise, so standstill, ESP on a family partnership farm spread across several holdings using the same rams might get into difficulties. I'm sure it's on a risk assessment and risk benefit basis, as I say I think it hasn't caused major issues so why not, it's relatively small numbers and all tracked with movement docs.