Author Topic: holding number  (Read 5296 times)

Ket

  • Joined Sep 2010
holding number
« on: June 27, 2013, 11:25:42 am »
Hi folks.  :wave:
Can someone please tell me if I get a holding number for my garden (1 acre) to keep a couple of goats, will my council tax be affected?

Roxy

  • Joined May 2009
  • Peak District
    • festivalcarriages.co.uk
Re: holding number
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2013, 12:04:50 pm »
Yes, you need a CPH number, whether its a garden or field.  Will not affect your council tax!! 

sokel

  • Joined Jun 2012
  • S W northumberland
Re: holding number
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2013, 03:45:16 pm »
No it wont change your council tax
Graham

Ket

  • Joined Sep 2010
Re: holding number
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2013, 04:01:59 pm »
Thanks both.
What are the advantages/disadvantages having a holding number?

Anke

  • Joined Dec 2009
  • St Boswells, Scottish Borders
Re: holding number
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2013, 04:20:45 pm »
If you want some goats you will need a holding number -goats (even pygmies) are classified as farm animals and a such fall under the DEFRA remit. So you will have to get your holding number (CPH) BEFORE you get your goats as you will need it for the transport documents.
 
Lots of info on the DEFRA website.
 
The rues and regs will take a while to comprehend, but once you have done it a few times it all becomes clearer.

plumseverywhere

  • Joined Apr 2013
  • Worcestershire
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Re: holding number
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2013, 04:41:54 pm »
Don't forget to check on your house deeds etc that there are no covenants or rules against livestock of any kind. Especially pertinent if you are looking to keep in a domestic garden.  :)
Smallholding in Worcestershire, making goats milk soap for www.itsbaaathtime.com and mum to 4 girls,  goats, sheep, chickens, dog, cat and garden snails...

Ket

  • Joined Sep 2010
Re: holding number
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2013, 05:27:28 pm »
Thanks that's great!   :thumbsup:

Lesley Silvester

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Telford
Re: holding number
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2013, 11:26:11 pm »
My deeds say no livestock but my goats are pets.  :innocent:

Torrin37

  • Joined Jun 2012
Re: holding number
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2013, 09:52:36 am »
My deeds are very specific - dogs and cats are ok but nothing else apart from 'feathered birds which live inside the residence'  ::)

Luckily no-one noticed the chickens I kept for 4 years but I'm not sure I'd get away with goats!  :D

shygirl

  • Joined May 2013
Re: holding number
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2013, 10:22:43 am »
my dads deeds had "no chickens" which was a shame as it was very rural. i wonder who makes these clauses?.

plumseverywhere

  • Joined Apr 2013
  • Worcestershire
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Re: holding number
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2013, 10:24:26 am »
Someone with nothing better to do, I bet!!

My dad lives in a tiny bungalow with diddy garden in the cotswolds, his deeds say 'no pigs' - nothing about cows though  :roflanim:
Smallholding in Worcestershire, making goats milk soap for www.itsbaaathtime.com and mum to 4 girls,  goats, sheep, chickens, dog, cat and garden snails...

Anke

  • Joined Dec 2009
  • St Boswells, Scottish Borders
Re: holding number
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2013, 02:06:34 pm »
my dads deeds had "no chickens" which was a shame as it was very rural. i wonder who makes these clauses?.

If he lives in an old estate cottage it would have been the original landowner - often the agri workers had lots of restrictions on what type of animals they were allowed to keep. Often to do with having cottages in a row and gardens not securely fenced off - so no goats, pigs or poultry. Agri workers often changed jobs every couple of years, so moving animals was not possible, esp with housing for them etc etc.
 
One book I read they were allowed a house cow, but not goats. Women milked the cow, sold the calf as early as possible, made the cream into butter (to be sold) and fed the skimmed milk to the pigs/children etc.

Roxy

  • Joined May 2009
  • Peak District
    • festivalcarriages.co.uk
Re: holding number
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2013, 11:20:24 am »
My friend moved to a house with a nice pond.  Then discovered in the deeds that she could not keep any sort of poultry - such a shame with a nice pond waiting.  Very strange, as the garden was away from any neighbours, and such a lot of people DO keep hens etc. in little gardens nowadays.....unless they just do it without thinking of any clauses

 

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