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lou995

  • Joined Feb 2013
  • leics
Shearing today!
« on: May 24, 2013, 07:08:50 am »
Shearer coming today, any tips to make sure things run smoothly?!


Lou

bizzielizzie66

  • Joined Apr 2013
  • Kent
Re: Shearing today!
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2013, 08:40:45 am »

Apart from making sure they are all in and dry and keeping the lambs from making a nuisance of themselves while mums are being shorn, I don't think you need worry too much. Make the shearer a nice cup of tea, try and will the sheep to keep still and get ready to knit the sheep a nice jumper afterwards  :knit: BRRR!

Mine were shorn 10 days ago and it's been really foul ever since! Still we've got to be grateful we're not in parts of Scotland with more snow! Can you believe this weather?!

Hope it all goes well!  :)
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Ina

  • Joined Feb 2012
  • South Aberdeenshire
Re: Shearing today!
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2013, 08:45:07 am »
Don't know how many you have - the main problem where I go is keeping the sheep coming, so the shearer doesn't have to wait for the next one, and then keeping the fleeces moving on, preferably getting them cleaned and rolled  before the next one is ready... Massive stress. Would work better with a lot more hands - but who can pay for that?
« Last Edit: May 24, 2013, 09:00:52 am by Ina »

plumseverywhere

  • Joined Apr 2013
  • Worcestershire
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Re: Shearing today!
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2013, 08:55:27 am »
Hi Lou, when Philip comes here he likes them penned. Last year I messed up on the penning and it meant we ended up playing chase the sheep which was unfair on Philip (this year my hurdle 'box' is a neat set up ready!)

Kettle on  :)
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FiB

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Bala, North Wales
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Re: Shearing today!
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2013, 09:09:09 am »
Hi Lou, when Philip comes here he likes them penned. Last year I messed up on the penning and it meant we ended up playing chase the sheep which was unfair on Philip (this year my hurdle 'box' is a neat set up ready!)

Kettle on  :)
Any pics?  Always wanting to learn from what works for others - and handling systems are a big learning curve.  After 2 years.... I am finally getting some hurdles this weekend (3 x 6ft and 4 x 4 ft) - all my relatives bought me one for my B day Hooray.  Rusty gates and baler twine will still feature but at least this year I have a chance of making something that can work - I just don't have a picture of what that looks like to provide Ina's perfect flow.....  So do people get them all in then separate the lambs???  (First year shearing with lambs for me). 

FiB

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Bala, North Wales
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Re: Shearing today!
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2013, 09:10:04 am »
And good luck lou  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: - let us know any learning points??

Ina

  • Joined Feb 2012
  • South Aberdeenshire
Re: Shearing today!
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2013, 09:40:54 am »
Hi Lou, when Philip comes here he likes them penned. Last year I messed up on the penning and it meant we ended up playing chase the sheep which was unfair on Philip (this year my hurdle 'box' is a neat set up ready!)

Kettle on  :)
I just don't have a picture of what that looks like to provide Ina's perfect flow..... 

Believe me - far from perfect! Those bl**dy sheep sometime need to be coaxed individually... When you only have one person to get a few 100 of them up the ramp at one end and another one to roll up a few 100 fleeces at the other end, and the shearer swearing in between because it's not going fast enough and he is losing time - nothing's perfect...

FiB

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Bala, North Wales
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Re: Shearing today!
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2013, 03:30:35 pm »
Hi Lou, when Philip comes here he likes them penned. Last year I messed up on the penning and it meant we ended up playing chase the sheep which was unfair on Philip (this year my hurdle 'box' is a neat set up ready!)

Kettle on  :)
I just don't have a picture of what that looks like to provide Ina's perfect flow..... 

Believe me - far from perfect! Those bl**dy sheep sometime need to be coaxed individually... When you only have one person to get a few 100 of them up the ramp at one end and another one to roll up a few 100 fleeces at the other end, and the shearer swearing in between because it's not going fast enough and he is losing time - nothing's perfect...
lol, I guess I meant more your vision of perfect flow!!!  Sounds like you at least have a handling system (but could do with more hands :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: !!!) - where as I am a little way behind that! (But I only have 30 ish to contend with).   Going to have a play this weekend when I get them in to heptovac etc.

lou995

  • Joined Feb 2013
  • leics
Re: Shearing today!
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2013, 08:44:17 pm »
All 6 done and all glad to be staying in tonight! :raining:
Funny to watch them work out who their 'new' mates are after shearing ;D lambs were a little confused as to where their mothers had gone.
before

after



Ina

  • Joined Feb 2012
  • South Aberdeenshire
Re: Shearing today!
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2013, 08:46:42 pm »
Great to hear that!  :)

Blackbird

  • Joined Jul 2012
Re: Shearing today!
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2013, 11:35:59 am »
Ina, ours didn't seem to recognise each other at all after shearing and started fighting! My Heb cross who has tiny, vestigial horns, had a minor cut to his horn, which bled profusely. When I went back to see them, they all had blood on them and I really panicked till I realised it all came from him scrapping with the others. After a few hours they were fine and all happy together as usual!
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Rosemary

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Barry, Angus, Scotland
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Re: Shearing today!
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2013, 03:40:40 pm »
Ours were shorn this morning too. Great day for it - they'll have time to get acclimatised before the weather breaks  :innocent:

goosepimple

  • Joined May 2010
  • nr Lauder, Scottish Borders
Re: Shearing today!
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2013, 04:01:24 pm »
Shearing?  Really? 
 
Flipping heck, it's warm here in the borders but I don't take my own vest off until mid June.  :D   Was frost everywhere here this morning and thin ice on the sheep water bucket.  :cold:
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Fleecewife

  • Joined May 2010
  • South Lanarkshire
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Re: Shearing today!
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2013, 05:52:44 pm »
Shearing?  Really? 
 
Flipping heck, it's warm here in the borders but I don't take my own vest off until mid June.  :D   Was frost everywhere here this morning and thin ice on the sheep water bucket.  :cold:

Same here and the fleeces don't have a rise yet.  Maybe we'll start in a couple of weeks - great advantage of doing it yourself (OH that is) with hand shears, so he picks off a few from each paddock each day, then we round them all up at the end to get the last few flighty ones who don't realise that if they submit they will feel SOOO much better afterwards  ::)
 
Ina I sympathise with your trying to get all the sheep lined up and sorting the fleeces at the same time.  If I get behind with the fleeces I can just leave them in the sun for a bit longer, but this year we have less than 3 dozen to do - a doddle  :sunshine:   will take about ten days or so at a few a day  :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep:
 
 
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SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
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Re: Shearing today!
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2013, 12:20:48 am »
Well, we clip the commercial flock in batches of 20 to 40 at a time, sometimes we might do three or four batches in one session.  So some of this will be OTT for people with a handful of sheep, but I'll share my thoughts in case any of it is useful.

Perfect handling for shearing depends somewhat on what equipment the shearer brings with him/her.  If they have a shearing trailer, then your setup would differ depending on whether they have square pens or a long race to hold the sheep awaiting clipping.

But whatever the setup, whoever is catching the sheep for the shearer (which is often the shearer) will appreciate always having more than one in a smallish area, so that they are easy to get hold of.  One on its own is too flighty.  If the shearer has to shear in that space, then you can't have it too jam packed with sheep or they'll be in the way, but if they are taken out of the holding pen to a different place to be clipped, then keeping the holding pen pretty packed makes it much easier to catch one each time.

Have somewhere for the clipped sheep to go to get out of the way once they're clipped, too.

If you have more than a handful of sheep, I find it best to think in terms of a holding pen or race, and a pre-holding pen.  If you top up the holding pen (from whence the sheep are taken to be shorn) from the pre-holding pen, the sheep should move from the one to the other fairly readily - never let the holding pen get as low as two animals.

To fill the pre-holding pen, some sort of funnel or corridor along a wall works well.  A bend helps, for some reason.  IME, if you walk out of the funnel or corridor you want the sheep to go down, and walk straight on, past the sheep, they are pretty likely to walk past you and into the funnel/corridor you came out of. ;)   If it is one sheep wide, and has a bend in it, and leads into an open pen or a race with sheep already in it, they usually just go in and join up with the sheep already there.

The shearer will appreciate sheep who haven't been stressed by the gather and subsequent handling - the calmer they are, the easier they are to shear, and the less likely they are to get cut. ;)

As to getting helpers to help load the sheep and to wrap the fleeces - if your fleeces will be nice for handspinning, and you can plan ahead, you should at least be able to get a handspinner or two to help wrap?  In exchange for one or two going home with them, of course. ;)
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