[sausagesandcash]

Looks like we're screwed! If future projections are correct.

[Crofter]

Another slightly worrying development!
 http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090722/thl-first-case-in-americas-of-drug-resis-5effa79.html


Dave

[sausagesandcash]

WHat could happen in hospital http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8163459.stm

[Tullywood Farm]

Hi Morgan,

I put in a request to hold one provisionally for ME weeks ago!.
So I am not worried!.
Kindest regards
Joe

[sausagesandcash]

Yup, they told me that....when I doubled the asking price  Joe'll be alright I said....just give him a board to lie on, bad back and all!! Sorry, know it's not funny someone taking the p*ss when your back is out, but I couldn't resist!

Regards,

Morgan

[Tullywood Farm]

Hi Morgan,

I don't mind anyone taking the P**S, Especially when I have not got a leg to stand on!.
Being that I can't feel them anyway!.
Kind regards
Joe

[sausagesandcash]

So I didn't tread on your toes so...or if I did you didn't feel it! God i'm bad. Time for a few Hail Mary's and a bit of self flagellation to purge my sins. Wife used to do the flagellation, but she began to like it a bit too much!


Regards,

Morgan

[Tullywood Farm]

Getting back to the swine flu situation regarding the vaccine

You guys in the UK will all have the option to take it within a few weeks.

In Ireland, we might be able to give 10% of the population an injection against the
second wave - stronger version of the swine flue due to hit us all in the Winter!!!!!!!

The first injection is still being trialed from chicken eggs? (Why  ???I thought it was Swine Flu?)
in Glaxo Smithwhatevertheyownnow at the moment and we may have some of it in 6 weeks.

Pray for the people with underlying illnesses, the children, and the old irish folk, and say a few hail marys (Morgan understands )  May our faith help us (if you have any) as the medical industry definately will not help us

What do ya think Russ - is it time to crack open the bubbly and live life to the full now    for us poor old irish folk in Eire??

Julie

[rustyme]

I think they are at a point now where they are back tracking and deliberately not giving any dates when the vaccine will be ready . They said that it would be ready by the end of August , then they said by the early part of September and now I have heard mention of sometime in October ? I don't think they have a clue to be honest . What does worry me more than anything, is the point that in the USA the government has given manufacturers immunity from any prosecution in court if anything goes wrong after having the vaccine !!
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14453
some very interesting info on there regarding not only the swine flu vaccine but also the MMR vaccine. Has the UK government given manufacturers immunity as well ? Is that what they are waiting for ?  GSK have been accused of selling the vaccine to third world countries for £6 or $6 each (depending on which report you read!!) when they only cost £1 or $1 each . GSK say they don't recognise those figures but that they cost more than £1 or $1 because they have an adjuvant (“Suitable adjuvants can be selected from mineral gels, aluminium hydroxide, surface active substances, lysolecithin, pluronic polyols, polyanions or oil emulsions such as water in oil or oil in water, or a combination thereof. Of course the selection of the adjuvant depends on the intended use. E.g. toxicity may depend on the destined subject organism and can vary from no toxicity to high toxicity.")
 I know for sure I will be taking a step back, from any vaccine they start pumping into people . There are just too many questions that aren't being answered and every thing to do with the vaccine points to £$ and nothing else . I will wait and see how the numbers play out before anyone sticks needles in me . Nothing about this 'Pandemic' adds up , the deeper you look the less it does so.
As for bubbly ....well I don't drink , is the bubbly GM I wonder ?   As always I just carry on doing my thing, and let the crazy bas**rds begin to wipe out billions ...the WHO are now saying that 2 billion will get the virus . Paving the way for population reduction on mega proportions.   

cheers

Russ

[Tullywood Farm]

All the best men do not drink - my Joe doesn't drink either, so iwilll havvvee tooo gettttt sloshsed onnnn meeeee owwwwwwwwn ( only haaveee onee buttle offff caaavaaaa)


Jewleeeeeeeee 

Seriously though - I am definately telling everyone I know not to take that vaccine - everyone has immunity except the poor bu88ers that will be taking it - I'm with you on this one all the waaaaaaaaaay

Julie

[Tullywood Farm]

Daily Mail are now advising everyone to buy the following:-

Paracetamol, Flu Products, Tissues, Anti-Bak Hand wash - another way to cause panic buying and gain extra turnover and tax revenue!

Just think if 60 million spend 5 quid each on the above stuff, thats an increase in sales of 300 million, and then theres the vat and all other associated taxes the government will get.

Still - Better than going to war in a recession in order to create more money movement
Julie

[rustyme]

your forgetting Afghanistan Julie......we are already at war. Iran and N. Korea  are on the cards next too....even Pakistan!!   ££££££££££££££££££ 



cheers

Russ

[Tullywood Farm]

Hi Russ

Living in a neutral country I don't worry that it will affect our life, and do tend to push these issues to the back of my mind - but I do know these things are going on -

I have chosen to study North Korea for an exam in
Social Science I am taking in November -
Been studying for this Diploma for three years (Home Study with The Hague)
on many very interesting subjects - really mind opening stuff, and great to study at middle age as opinion and views are more available to the student - loving it!

I would appreciate your views and opinions on the N. Korea situation - maybe a P.M. would be more appropriate - I have to write a 6000 word essay on the situation of North Korea from every social science angle - Religion, Politics, Money, Culture and Belief, Dictatorship, Public Opinion (if they have one)i.e. all angles !

On Pakistan - I think that even your daft Prime Minister will not be so stupid as to get UK involved in that one - 
IF he has any sense he has to leave it to the americans as that will cause was at home in almost all major cities - there are too many muslims and pakistan related people in the UK to not have repercusions at home on a major scale.

Iran are a wildcard?  What do you think 

Afganistan is to be dropped by several UN forces and even America are wanting out now that Pakistan are getting to be part of the deal. Or is that just the Iraq situation???

Bit scary to say the least - but short term they need cash now and without North Korea Nuking someone then its all long term war, so quick fixes are required to the cash flow problem.

North Korea are very dangerous at the moment but general public and the people I speak to do not seem to realise or be interested in the problem at all
Julie

[rustyme]

Hello Julie ,
              N. Korea is possibly one of the most dangerous situations bubbling away at the moment . The reason being, N.Korea are not scared of the bullying tactics of the US . The US can put as many sanctions on them as they want , few will make any difference to the average N.Korean, who have very little and mainly support themselves anyway !! The N.Korean government then use propaganda to blame every problem they have on the US and the west that seems to instill hatered even more. The US think they can rule the world and tell everyone "do as I say ,not as I do" .  Why is it ok for them to have nuclear weapons , but nobody else ? why is ok for them to invade other countries but nobody else ? We follow like little sheep , or the nasty little sods in the playground that follow the big bully , sticking the boot in when we can . But N.Korea are different !!!! They say "go on then !  try it with us"  even the US know that this is a whole different ball game , and try to call in all the little snots to stick the boot in  !!! I don't say that N.Korea are right , but I know the US are wrong !! They want number one position back !!! But N.Korea , Pakistan and Iran are in the way , along with an up and comming China !!!. Each on their own can kick the crap out of the US (maybe not beat them but really hurt them !!) , If they get together then you have huge problems . The main problem we all have now , in Europe anyway is , the muslim threat . In the UK in the mid 1970's there were only about 80,000 , today there are between 2,500,000 and 5,000,000 . With illegals numbering , some say almost as many . They reckon that the UK will effectively, be a muslim state in about another 30 or 40 years , I  think it will happen in my life time .  The crazy melting pot they have allowed to happen will not work , already it is starting to falter . What the outcome will be is anybodies guess , but sticking your fingers in your ears and sining la la la  ain't gonna cut the mustard.... but as you say Julie , that is what most people do . They just do not want to know about it !!!


Cheers

Russ

[rustyme]

http://www.influenza.com/images/timeline.gif

 the above is a rough timeline of flu vaccine production . Now bare in mind that none of the companies had a sample of swine flu till late May !!!! (allegedly !!).  Also think about the fact that the normal flu vaccine works on very few people as, only some 10% or so of annual flu virus , is actually flu virus !!! the rest is any one of about 200 or so other viruses that give almost exactly the same symptoms as flu. However, the flu vaccine does not work on any of these OTHER viruses. The WHO have also stopped checking how many actually have flu , and state that 'those that show signs, Probably have it anyway' how can you plan to immunise the whole world (with an untested unknown vaccine)  against a Swine flu, that may have mutated by the time you give the jab, on a Probable supposition ??  If this wasn't bordering on possible world wide genocide , it would be farcical . I think the people in charge of all this, must have watched the clip below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix3kA5_790M

cheers

Russ