[LittleMrsC]

Bit nasty
each to their own hope can return the favour to you lot sometime
Mandy

  Directed at the industry Mandy.......definitely not the individual, that would be just horrid! 

[Fowgill Farm]

The industry provides thousands of livliehoods and pours millions of pounds into the economy,  don't moan when all the lights go out!
mandy

[RUSTYME]

"don't moan when all the lights go out " .
Nope , i won't !
Money , money , money , pollution , pollution , pollution , more money , money , money , ad infinitum .
Greed , corruption , blackmail , power , control .
Also directed at the industry , not the individual .

[Fowgill Farm]

You won't moan Rusty as you already live off grid if you exuse the pun!
But as they say those in glasshouses................... 
Mandy

[RUSTYME]

Lol, no i know mate . I do come at the whole subject from very different viewpoint to the norm , but i am prepared to back my mouth up , and do so , as much as possible .
Funny thing though , i always liked the sound of breaking glass !

[deepinthewoods]

the industry is stripping the planet, polluting the air, killing hundreds of thousands of people a year, exploiting thousands of indiginous peoples across the planet and their territories, all in the name of profit.

[Berkshire Boy]

Their taxes go to prop up the nhs,police,schools etc,etc,etc.They create 10's of thousands of jobs, yes they are corrupt but we can't do without them and they know it and so do we.

[deepinthewoods]

so its blackmail too?

[MAK]

The alternative to the "liberal economy" that  generates " taxes go to prop up the nhs,police,schools etc,etc,etc.They create 10's of thousands of jobs".

Was that not communism that we rejected by the masses after decades of poverty, hardship, repression, oppression, injustice, torture and murder?

i do not know what the alternative is but at least we have the freedom of speech to debate it.

Maybe if we could all get together at Rusty's , build a big fence to keep others out and pool our skills and money, earned from the capital system, then we could all live with clear a conscience. Just a thought,

[RUSTYME]

If you can get over the razor wire fence round my place , past the ied's and booby traps and me with my longbow , you can do what you like , if not feckoff , i will repel all boarders ! lol .
 But seriously , if enough people got together , wherever ( but not at my place ) , with enough skills , why would they need money ?
"poverty , hardship , repression , oppression , injustice , torture and murder " , sounds like present government policy to me .
 Freedom of speech ? Atm  , just .
 

[deepinthewoods]

freedom of speech to discuss this? yes thank god we still do, but it wont be long before we dont, if the internet control that is planned is allowed to continue, you can kiss good bye to freedom of speech. already people are being pulled and interviewed in this country for what they have said online, and i dont mean racist stuff, i mean anti government stuff. facebook is being increasingly censored, if you post anti U.S particularly.

[MAK]

really ? I knew that there are key words that are monitored - like BOMB ! oops
My bet is that "Rusty" will be added to the list soon 

No seriousley - is the "scanning" going beyond anti-terror measures?

Right - will sit up stairs now in the dark and scan the lane for assualt troops after using the B word.

[deepinthewoods]

yes, do some research....     im just off out (to see courtney pine yay!) but ill put some links up later. there was a petition about it.....

[RUSTYME]

Already on it mate , have been for some time .
But i send emails to mp's telling them exactly what i think of the corrupt bastards ! Feckem!

[deepinthewoods]

mak,   http://business.financialpost.com/2012/12/03/un-web-conference-in-dubai-begins-amid-criticism-from-open-internet-advocates/
 
 
 
but luckily, the u.s and the uk walked out. it will come one day tho.