Author Topic: Anxiety/depression & smallholding!!!  (Read 41900 times)

peartreewoodlandsmallholding

  • Joined Jan 2012
  • staffordshire
Anxiety/depression & smallholding!!!
« on: January 14, 2013, 10:33:47 pm »
Hi, Basically these are two taboos that no one likes to talk about or admit to dealing with on a daily basis, but are serious real problems that people live with everyday having suffered with them for quite a few years i just wondered how everyone else that suffers from these debilitating conditions out there  deals with these awfull issues, alongside the stressfull hard going lifestyle of farming/smallholding. I think sometimes its nice to know your not alone in struggling along with everything, would be nice to hear from anyone in the same boat. all the best to all.... :) 

Dans

  • Joined Jun 2012
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Re: Anxiety/depression & smallholding!!!
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2013, 10:42:39 pm »
Well done Abe, far too many people shy away from these things.

I don't yet have a smallholding (but I am hoping), I have bipolar though so I worry how my lows will affect. I am 99% sure that I would always take care of the animal's needs but I worry. Would be very keen to hear how it affects other people's abilities to keep their smallholdings running.

Dans
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Possum

  • Joined Feb 2012
  • Somerset
Re: Anxiety/depression & smallholding!!!
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2013, 10:57:41 pm »
It is a dreadful condition and so difficult to treat. On the whole, I think smallholding is quite helpful. Research shows that outdoor activity and looking after animals is beneficial in treating depression and anxiety.


Mind you, getting someone who is severely depressed to go out into the open, can be a challenge. However, it's still better than being in a 2nd floor flat in a big city.

littlelugs

  • Joined Aug 2011
  • carmarthenshire
Re: Anxiety/depression & smallholding!!!
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2013, 11:57:36 pm »
I'm a sufferer of clinical depression. Have had it about 10 years and was made worse when my mum passed suddenly in 2011 at the age of 55.. was a dark time and thought about giving it all up.. but if i did i wouldnt have a reason to get out of bed in a morning!
I find it relaxing spending time with the animals (when i'm not at work). The hardest thing is when something goes wrong i tend to torture myself mentally, you know (shoulda, woulda, coulda).
As with all depression sufferers, i have good days and bad days, but touch wood the good is more than the bad at the moment. (the medication is working)! I dont know why there is such a taboo about depression its more common than most people realise. If you ever need someone to sound off to drop me a pm..
Littlelugs

Alistair

  • Joined Sep 2012
Re: Anxiety/depression & smallholding!!!
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2013, 07:07:33 am »
Little lugs, nicely put, I to suffer with depression, and am now (as of Saturday) off the medication for the first time in five yrs.

I think, despite the help of the Priory (who in my opinion are the best), that the biggest help over te years has been doing things for myself, I.e. looking after my animals, working for myself, this has given e a reason to do things and most importantly self esteem, I now believe in me. I still have moments when things go wrong but I possess a 'toolkit' that consists of solutions to manage those situations that occur in my head that are likely to set me back, doesn't matter what the triggers are.

I also have (fingers crossed) suffered from acute agoraphobia, the fear of the unknown, basically I run my life now managing out all unknowns as far as humanely possible, this just makes sense, it takes a lot of effort, but after 5 years I think I'm about there win it

Biggest things to remember are

Put yourself first, really, take time for you, enjoy it
Challenge every negative thought you have about yourself, it's difficult, but you will find your wrong about yourself
Do something different, if its bad ding wallow, go out, do something ese, you'll enjoy it more than you think
Make lists of things to do the in the evening, just 4 things, one you must do, the rest are for you, the next day do them, you will achieve, you will feel better
Talk to someone you don't know, ring Samaritans or someone, you can't tell the closest people because I'd guess they're part of your problem
Be brutally honest with yourself, identify your coping strategies, identify the ones that have gone wrong and relearn them
Oh ad see the doctor, get help, the long you leave it the longer it takes to get better, it doesn't take half an hour, remember, it's cased by a chemical imbalance, you are ill, you need to stabilise the mood swings,

The above is what I've learnt after 18 months of cognitive behavioural therapy, get some, if your not ill get some, you'll be a better person for it

Oh ad you can pm me to
« Last Edit: January 15, 2013, 07:11:36 am by Alistair »

Alistair

  • Joined Sep 2012
Re: Anxiety/depression & smallholding!!!
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2013, 07:43:58 am »
Oh and make a list of things you used to enjoy doing, mine was Lego, model kits, cycling and stuff, and then try them again, I did, I found painting tiny model soldiers was doing it for me so I did more, I still do them now, they have no use, they arn't displayed I just enjoy the process

I also taught myself to knit, I like knitting, and you get sweaters and scarfs and mittens and stuff, the craft section here is soooooo helpful, try something new, knitting is so cheap, two sticks and a bit if wool

Anyway this (below ) is marcel, he's French, and has a moustache

To be honest I think I quite like being mad, it's so much more interesting (mind I'm in a good place at the moment)
« Last Edit: January 15, 2013, 07:52:32 am by Alistair »

Ina

  • Joined Feb 2012
  • South Aberdeenshire
Re: Anxiety/depression & smallholding!!!
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2013, 07:48:41 am »
Good to know you are not alone... I've been struggling with depression - on and off - for decades. And I've always thought that having a smallholding, or at least some animals, helps massively with that; at the moment, the only thing that gets me out of bed some days is the cat. Having a quite regular life is important for me - which is why I do so badly being unemployed. Work gets me out of the house (my strong sense of duty is overriding my other problems and does get me out), and gets me talking to people (at times I can't even do the garden because I might meet somebody out there who'd want to talk to me - hell!)


plumseverywhere

  • Joined Apr 2013
  • Worcestershire
    • Its Baaath Time
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Re: Anxiety/depression & smallholding!!!
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2013, 08:04:20 am »
Hello Abe

I was diagnosed with depression at 16. It became worse after the births of my middle 2 children and then some stress here in the past 2 years (not connected with smallholding but local weirdos!) has led me to go back onto citalopram and receive counselling.
I'm steadily well again currently but this might go some way to explain why the 'little' things like dog attacks on our sheep send me spiralling where others might cope better.
When we moved here I called this place my natural prozac and when I'm down I find walking in our sheep field quite therapeutic - away from people. I also have some diazapams to pop when the anxiety rises!
 
Agree with Alistair about having something to create or make. I make soap but also restore mini gypsy wagons and do cross stitch  :)

I've found having a support network of local friendly, farming experts makes me feel more secure (sheep farmer opposite is a legend) and of course TAS - full of people i'd love to meet in real life and who feel more like friends than many people I do meet in real life!
Smallholding in Worcestershire, making goats milk soap for www.itsbaaathtime.com and mum to 4 girls,  goats, sheep, chickens, dog, cat and garden snails...

HappyHippy

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Re: Anxiety/depression & smallholding!!!
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2013, 08:08:55 am »
I suffer from depression too, have done since my teens.
Smallholding is a great way to help you feel better (mostly)..... getting out in the fresh air and doing stuff helps  :thumbsup: It also helps with sleep patterns, which in turn helps you feel a bit better. I'd definately agree with the part about making things or crafting things - really helps me  ;)

I'd say, just start off small and take it one day at a time - we're all here if you need support  :-*
Karen

happygolucky

  • Joined Jan 2012
Re: Anxiety/depression & smallholding!!!
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2013, 08:46:53 am »
 :hug: :hug:
Thank you, not a person who experiences depression to any great extent but so touching that others share on here, my husband suffers and it has a knock on effect on me. I think my sense of humor helps me, I also deal with things/situations very quickly, eliminate people or things from my life that cause anxiety and move onto something positive.
Working for yourself eliminates office or workplace bullies so that's good, I love being outside and feeling the fresh air, seeing the seasons change and I love nature and animals however cruel its natural!
I want to say so much and already have deleted several posts.......again, I am so happy to be privileged to have a forum like this to air our views on!!
 
 

Ina

  • Joined Feb 2012
  • South Aberdeenshire
Re: Anxiety/depression & smallholding!!!
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2013, 08:48:16 am »
But that's the problem - all those things that are supposed to help you - crafting, walking, fresh air - when I am really depressed, I don't even have the energy to start knitting, I definitely won't leave the house (unless it's something like work or helping a friend, that I have committed myself to), and I certainly won't want to speak to anybody! I think smallholding is great because there are the animals that need you, that force you to get up and do things. Anything can go look after itself, as far as I am concerned...

sabrina

  • Joined Nov 2008
Re: Anxiety/depression & smallholding!!!
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2013, 09:03:45 am »
My depression started after the birth of my 2nd son. He slept 3 hours out of 24 and life was very difficult with no help from my first husband. There were many times in the 24 years of that marriage where I felt like ending it all. When I left and now married to my Gordon life was great and I was happy in myself but life has a habit of kicking you in the gut and 5 years ago I found out I had breast cancer. I have been on the drug tamoxifen which is well know for causing depression. to help with that I was put on Cymbalta which helped a bit. I can say that there has been many a day that getting out of bed has been so hard. Tamoxifen also makes you very tired. I felt as if my life had been taken from me. My animals have kept me going. I am on my own most of the day now once OH goes to work.I speak to family on facebook which helps and people on here. I have taught myself to make the most of each day. If I am not up to a days chores I do what must be done and leave the rest for a day that I am feeling better.Not so hard on myself to make everything perfect. My OH suffers as well due to all the pressure from his job so he has made changes on the way he handles is work. We only get one chance at life and there are times when it is more important to put yourself first than worry what others will think.

plumseverywhere

  • Joined Apr 2013
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Re: Anxiety/depression & smallholding!!!
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2013, 09:07:17 am »
I can understand that, Ina. On the very worst days its as much as I can do to feed/hay/water the animals and look after the children. Anything recreational feels like too much effort. I find that on the days where I need to relax but am not really low or stressed, an hour of being creative helps keep me calm and happy though.

Most people, even those who've never truly suffered, do try to be supportive but then there are the ignorant few (I had one 'friend' who posted messages about 'get rid of negative people and positive ones replace them' all over her facebook as a dig at me when I was ill!) Its good to have a thread like this where you can feel supported without being judged. LIke Sandy says, its a lovely forum (most of the time!!) with lovely people
Smallholding in Worcestershire, making goats milk soap for www.itsbaaathtime.com and mum to 4 girls,  goats, sheep, chickens, dog, cat and garden snails...

Alistair

  • Joined Sep 2012
Re: Anxiety/depression & smallholding!!!
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2013, 09:29:41 am »
But that's the problem - all those things that are supposed to help you - crafting, walking, fresh air - when I am really depressed, I don't even have the energy to start knitting, I definitely won't leave the house (unless it's something like work or helping a friend, that I have committed myself to), and I certainly won't want to speak to anybody!

Ina, that sounds so familiar, I didn't go out for about 9 months, and stopped talking full stop, just in case I said the wrong thing. What I realised was that I'd created my own safe place to be, however safe it was though it was perpetuating the depression, I decided I didn't want it anymore, and by taking baby steps, making myself get out of bed, making myself do things by making lists the night before, I.e. eat something, open the front door, draw a picture, gradually changed things, I realised I did have the energy, and now, years after ave the motivation too. I can now spot the onset of the depression phase, I feel lethargic, muggy, fuzzy headed and am snappy, as soon as this starts that's wen I start crafting etc, stop it before it starts.

Mind my work is creative these days so that helps

I still don't go to big cities, that's a step too far for me, but I don't need to, so why bother?

Fowgill Farm

  • Joined Feb 2009
Re: Anxiety/depression & smallholding!!!
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2013, 09:57:38 am »
I think its a problem that is more common than people admit, i was diagnosed after my nan died in 2000 and it was very hard to tell even my OH who really struggled to get his head around it, medication helped but making lifestyle changes was the biggest help. I still get lows now and then the coulda, shoulda, woulda moments but smallholding and my pigs have given me something to be glad about. I've learn't to watch for my own symptoms of depression which for me are crying for no reason, fatigue, not bothering with my appearance (the bag lady look!) feeling of worthlessness and so on. They creep up sometimes and its hard to say whoa, but making lists of good things about life and planning nice things for the future help. As does letting off steam and having a whinge to my TAS buddies :thumbsup: ;D  Thanks guys for being there. :bouquet: There is always help its just daring/knowing how and when to ask for it.
mandy :pig:

 

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