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plumseverywhere

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raw vs pasteurised
« on: January 10, 2013, 09:15:42 am »
Does anyone have any evidence, research based or anecdotal, that raw milk could be better for health than pasteurised please? reason for asking is that my daughter is suffering with alopecia areata and this has coincided with her going from our own milk onto supermarkets stuff. Have heard it affects eczema sufferers more which of course she is. Gp thinks might be stress induced due to her Lamb being killed in dog attack but also doing more tests to rule out anything more sinister. If it's possible she needs raw milk I can try to source some as my freezer empty now!
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SallyintNorth

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Re: raw vs pasteurised
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2013, 11:42:44 am »
Anecdotally, I call Hillie milk 'the magical fluid, the elixir of life'.  I firmly believe that my own cows' milk is full of friendly bacteria which help keep us all healthy in our own environment

The Campaign for Real Milk and others tell you that many of the vitamins are lost as milk is pasteurised or sterlised and homogenised.

The organic dairy farm and cheesemakers across the road from me sell and use raw milk in their shop and cafe and in their unpastuerised cheese.  They have some leaflets about the health benefits of it, I'll try to get over there and get one - PM me your email address for me to send you a scan of it, or snailmail if you'd rather have one posted (remembering you're having problems with internet access at the mo.)
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jinglejoys

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Re: raw vs pasteurised
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2013, 12:04:46 pm »
Possably if more people drank raw milk there'd be less people with allergies eximah and asthma ;)

goosepimple

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Re: raw vs pasteurised
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2013, 02:01:49 pm »
My sister had a stressful period when she was a teenager and suffered alopecia plums, it got quite bad and it took about a year to recover, her hair came in grey in the loss bits, but it all grew in dark again eventually.
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Dogwalker

  • Joined Nov 2011
Re: raw vs pasteurised
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2013, 05:39:48 pm »
From a quick google
http://www.realmilk.com/health/raw-milk-vs-pasteurized-milk/

I'm sure pastuerising destroys more than bacteria,
Raw milk certainly stays fresh alot longer.

Lesley Silvester

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Re: raw vs pasteurised
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2013, 06:05:53 pm »
And tastes considerably better.

Anke

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Re: raw vs pasteurised
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2013, 09:53:19 pm »
See if you can borrow a goat that is still milking until yours are coming back into milk themselves.
 
Or can you try a nearby goatkeeper to sell you a regular amount for your puppy... :innocent:
 
I am sure exzema (spelling?) is more likely to be caused by the pasteurised/homogenised stuff. There is someone I have heard from via the BGS website selling raw goatsmilk - frozen and delivered to you - I think she is chucklinggoat.co.uk also lots of info on raw milk and links.

plumseverywhere

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Re: raw vs pasteurised
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2013, 08:57:16 am »
Thanks all. Will look at all links and do some research. I think India needs to get back onto the raw stuff, not only her but all the kids are coughing and a little under the weather since switching. I know I need to be careful what I say (don't want to offend the big retailers who sell pasteurised stuff) but in our case I'm sure we've noticed an issue. Oh and my mum with her MS - she's having gastric issues since the switch too! crikey. more I think about it all....
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ballingall

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Re: raw vs pasteurised
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2013, 09:19:46 am »
Borrowing a goat would work. The only time we have lived with a Geurnsey was because we borrowed her in winter to keep us in milk....


I might add, we had to borrow her, because we had a milk customer. He had two pints of milk every second day, and he lived to be 100. His diet? Fish and vegetables, boiled in raw goats milk, and as he got older, puréed! A bit weird, but it worked for him.


Beth

plumseverywhere

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Re: raw vs pasteurised
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2013, 10:15:14 am »
Only 2 of mine are CAE tested so I'd likely have to get them all done before I could borrow - like the idea though. Having said that, everyone locally has dried theirs up!
Smallholding in Worcestershire, making goats milk soap for www.itsbaaathtime.com and mum to 4 girls,  goats, sheep, chickens, dog, cat and garden snails...

jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
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Re: raw vs pasteurised
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2013, 10:31:44 pm »
Sorry about India's hair, poor love, that can't be easy to deal with  :-*

Found this:
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Besides destroying part of the vitamin C contained in raw milk and encouraging growth of harmful bacteria, pasteurization turns the sugar of milk, known as lactose, into beta-lactose - which is far more soluble and therefore more rapidly absorbed in the system, with the result that the child soon becomes hungry again.

Probably pasteurization’s worst offence is that it makes insoluable the major part of the calcium contained in raw milk. This frequently leads to rickets, bad teeth, and nervous troubles, for sufficient calcium content is vital to children; and with the loss of phosphorus also associated with calcium, bone and brain formation suffer serious setbacks.

Pasteurization also destroys 20 percent of the iodine present in raw milk, causes constipation and generally takes from the milk its most vital qualities.
It's pretty old but I guess kids and milk are quite old too  :)

 

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