Author Topic: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?  (Read 34802 times)

manian

  • Joined Sep 2010
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2012, 05:38:54 pm »
when we did high altitude trekking (everest base camp) it was well above the tree line and they use dried yak poo
they 'patt' it into squares and store it in the kitchen once dried
 

NormandyMary

  • Joined Apr 2011
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2012, 06:28:11 pm »
In the old days (early 60's) our house didnt have central heating, we had a coal boiler in our morning room (breakfast room) and a gas fire in the lounge. We only went into the dining room on highdays and holidays and had a 2 bar electric fire in there. Nothing in the bedrooms, but at bathtimes we had one of those parafin heaters that made pretty shapes on the ceiling. Then we got central heating...heaven.
I have to say though that we dont miss the heating over here, we have a large woodburner in the lounge which sends loads of heat upstairs. Its backed up with electric radiators in the lounge, the bathroom, and the bedrooms, although we try not to use them, and havent so far this year. I also have a small woodburner in the kitchen which will also heat the downstairs bathroom as it leads off the kitchen. We have a conservatory on the back of the house and a porch on the front so that adds as insulation. The mornings can be a bit chilly unless we bank the fire up with large logs, but it only takes a minute to get the fire roaring again.

happygolucky

  • Joined Jan 2012
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2012, 06:39:36 pm »
 :roflanim: :roflanim: I am loving this post, we are up for sale and I keep saying, we do not want heating on all the time, I would much rather have one cosy room with a Miltie fuel burner then a cold bedroom to snuggle up  in :hug: ......I am not a fan of hot houses either"" they are far too stuffy for me but i do like the option of roasting in front of a fire......my ideal house will have a large kitchen dinner breakfast type room with either an Arga type thing as well as a cooker so it can be turned off, or a little log burner, then a sitting room with an open fire.....hot water can either be an immersion heater or backed up by the log burner etc.....a warm bathroom IS a must but otherwise, I think its healthy not having it too hot.
As a child we had hot water bottles,  a bath once a week and that was it, just an open fire, later a gas fire.......I also remember those dreaded parafin heaters, get close to them and you would burn your leg, they often tipped over too and that smell, although niceish, got a bit over barring, we used to have one in the outside toilet as a child, that was to stop your bum freezing to the seat!! :innocent:
In a way its a waste to have the house so hot you go around undressed  :innocent: I go around more dressed than when I take the dogs out although we can get the house warmish, its very expensive to!!

colliewoman

  • Joined Jul 2011
  • Pilton
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Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2012, 07:35:45 pm »
Scour the charity shops for extra duvet and put one or two UNDER your bottom sheet. Personally I prefer the weight of an eiderdown and blankets to a duvet as the bed covers.
An extra dog on the bed makes all the difference :thumbsup:
Eat well, sounds daft but you wouldn't shut your goats away at night without a full hay rack, so don't go to bed hungry. Even if you put a little weight on that in itself will help you keep warm.
Make sure hands and feet stay DRY at all times. Good boots and socks are IMO the most important thing for cold weather.If you do get wet socks/gloves change them for dry ones ASAP.
Keep at least 3 days worth of wood indoors, then if things really do get bad, you have time to think about fuel. Same goes for food, root veg and eggs keep well and will keep you going.
Make sure you still get enough fluids, your body can't work without them ;)
Then just enjoy it! The frost will be killing off loads of bugs and nasties and the world is beautiful when it has been iced :D
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MAK

  • Joined Nov 2011
  • Middle ish of France
    • Cadeaux de La forge
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2012, 08:23:52 pm »
Happygolucky - so you can move in with us as we can tick box all on your list.
The thing is it is sod off cold in the winter but v hot in the summer.
3 days worth of wood to the heat the house will fill half our kitchen/living roon/dinning room ( or the room of life). 
So - we have done heat - what about food in the old days?
Veg in the cellar?
Bottled beans or peas?
NO FRIDGE!
Meat under fat? Dried meat?
Stews ?
Oh - the french word for duck under feathers is duvet - we hope to make one after our 27th duck is plucked  ;D   
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happygolucky

  • Joined Jan 2012
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2012, 08:47:24 pm »
I am not sure where  you are MAK?  We are warm tonight as we have guests, when no one is with us we have a big fire as we do have a lot of logs but, I like the idea of one room where you cook eat and live most of the time.......
I think we get used to the temp where we live, I could not move to Austrailia like my 2 daughters have, thats far too hot for me, I hate to be too hot as its harder to cool off than to warm up!! 

goosepimple

  • Joined May 2010
  • nr Lauder, Scottish Borders
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2012, 09:14:41 pm »
I don't think kids feel the cold, I can't remember it when I was wee and I don't think my kids feel it, we do though.  We have reinsulated the whole house and have installed an aga in our new kitchen (we've not moved in yet, still living in our mill) so we can just live in the kitchen/dining area and not turn the heating on.
 
Electric bar fires / gas fires same as all of you growing up and central heating only when I was an adult - we do have an assortment of duvets for summer and winter although the winter one hasn't come off this year at all  :raining:
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jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2012, 09:28:04 pm »
I do that 'living in one warm bit' thing. I live in a longhouse, ie one room deep. I live at one end, the kitchen has the Aga and there is a little sitting room off there that has in it a woodburner. My bedroom is directly above the Aga, so that warms that up but I have a woodburner in there too.
 
The rest of the house is unheated - the stairs are at the other end - and I just sprint through it, between the warm bits  :D

I am always too hot in anywhere centrally heated - partly cos of being used to a 17th century stone house at 1000ft and partly because I am personally well insulated  ::) It's become a standing joke with my colleagues that I'm fine when everyone else is shivering. Goodness only knows what will happen when I get to the age of hot flashes - I will probably melt into a puddle, like the tiger.

MAK

  • Joined Nov 2011
  • Middle ish of France
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Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2012, 09:35:06 pm »
HappygoLucky - Our Salon de Vie is just off the north side of the Mille Vache in France but still quite high up and miles from the warm Atlantic coast - so pretty much central France.
We have an electric towel rail too - nah ! But our stairs are outside the house but within the barn and the cold puts me off the trek to turn the towel rail on in the bathroom before my evening shave and shower. We messed up with converting the attic into our bedroom - too hot in the summer and freezing in the depths of winter despite hot air rising, 3 radiators and much insulation.
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Victorian Farmer

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Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2012, 10:01:16 pm »
well very intresting post    The old man fits in a treat he only has plain food no heat only in the kitchin i live in a modern house he lives rough .He can go for weeks in the winter seeing no 1 for weeks he also has porridge for tea .in 2010 we worked all Christmas day till 3 just had sandwiches for dinner no think bothers him iff stock is all right that's it a pic from this morning

Lesley Silvester

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Telford
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2012, 10:53:44 pm »
I remember frost patterns on the inside of the windows.  Our house was so damp that my parents saved up and had central heating put in the bedrooms.  It ran off the fire with a back boiler in the dining room.  Even with the CH my bedroom (in the attic) was so cold that I used to sit on the floor with my back to the radiator to read.  Either that, or get into bed.  We had a paraffin stove in the bathroom which was only lit on bath night.  Necessary as we were only allowed about four inches of water to bath in.  Our sitting room had an electric fire which we used to huddle round.

Give me my gas fired central heating any day.

bucketman

  • Joined Sep 2008
  • Sutherland Scotland
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2012, 10:56:29 pm »
Well when we moved we found the boiler wasnt working. So in the living bit its a coal fire and bedroom we have an electric radiator and we stay warm the bathroom is cold. Then in the bar area we have fan heaters we leave one though the night to stop the toilets freezing up they probably would'nt any way the other 2 go on in the morning then 2hrs before we open the portable gas fire goes on. and the fan heaters go off the big log burner get lit just before we open and the gas fire goes off when thats warm. This is all to get it warm for when some one comes in most nights we must lose money. But will sort it all out next season  :fc:
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Small Farmer

  • Joined Jan 2012
  • Bedfordshire
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2012, 11:48:19 pm »
We had Aladdin paraffin stoves.  Looking back I don't know how we didn't burn the place down. I think we had about 30 gallons in the shed and a jerrycan with a spout for filling the stoves.  They added massively to the water vapour in the air so the windows were always iced up.  Later models had a water reservoir to put out the wick if the thing was knocked over.


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SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
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Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2012, 02:31:57 am »
SallyintNorth - is there an art to making dried horse poo, or do you just leave it lying around for a bit?  :thinking: Does it smell when you put it in the burner???
no, yes and no.  No art, yes it's just as easy as leaving it lying around for a while and no, it doesn't smell.  (Qualification on the last - we're full-time beef & sheep farmers with pigs & ponies too, it's possible there is a lingering aroma and we either don't detect it or don't find it at all offensive - but as far as I could tell there was no 'horse poo' smell.)
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SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
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Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2012, 03:00:20 am »
MAK, I lived in a barn conversion that seemed to me, at first, to be 'upside down'.  The bedrooms and bathroom were on the bottom layer, partially earth shielded as the barns were on/in a hillside, the main living and kitchen area was the middle layer and the sitting room, office etc were on the top floor.  When we were buying the place we thought long and hard about how to get a bathroom upstairs so we could put the main bedroom on the top floor.  It wasn't straightforward so we moved in as it was.

After living there 12 months no way would I have changed things.  The bottom-floor bedrooms were less cold in winter, being so sheltered, and beautifully cool in summer when the top floor would have you removing a layer of clothing.

Before I found myself buying a farm up here, I had longed to find somewhere I could live the old way - animals below, generating heat to warm the human habitation above.  I still think it's a good idea.  You wouldn't need a calving cam - just a peephole in the bedroom floor!    :D

We have a number of tricks to keep ourselves warm - the main one is using work to heat us; if you're in the house long enough to be getting cold, the best thing is to get off your backside and do some work, that'll soon warm you up!   :D  And when you come back in, the house feels warm as the air is warmer than outdoors, so you stay warm for long enough to have a meal, a hot drink and a wee rest - then it's time to do some more work.  Woodburner on in the evening for a relax.

No2 trick is always put on warm dry clothes.  We take the chill off pyjamas before going to bed (with hot water bottle in my case - BH likes an electric blanket, I don't); the clothes for morning are on the hot water tank; there's a little oil-filled electric rad we can use to dry outerwear, gloves, hats, wellies if there's no other available heat.  We wear plenty of clothes, in layers is best, and you really can't beat wool.  I've just made us both a pair of woolly slippers and the difference it makes to your whole body temperature is quite amazing.

As colliewoman says, get anything wet off as soon as possible and change for warmed dry.

As to food in the old days - well, I'm just about to wrap and hang a side of bacon to see how that compares to keeping it in packs of sliced in the freezer; root veg would be clamped; spuds and apples stored, then there's bottling / pickling (eggs, cabbage, beetroot, onions to name four obvious ones), cheese; grains can be stored.  And I guess there'd always be fat you could use in place of butter (I used to love dripping on bread as a kid  :yum:) - and when you're working hard in challenging conditions, you can use a higher-fat diet without risk, I think.  And I suppose you'd have a few animals that you could slaughter as the winter progressed, provided you had hay or other feed to keep them going as long as you needed.

You don't need a fridge in winter if you've a larder or cold room.  At Tinkers' Bubble, the Jerseys were fed a little grain and kept milking through the winter, though at a reduced rate.  The buckets were stored in a fast-running stream - every bit as good as a fridge  :)  Milk for the 'house' was fetched by the jugful as required.  When sufficient spare milk had collected, a batch of cheese would be made.

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