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MAK

  • Joined Nov 2011
  • Middle ish of France
    • Cadeaux de La forge
Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« on: December 08, 2012, 08:40:38 am »
Just watched BBC breakfast's tips on how to cope with the expected cold. I just can not imagine how most people would cope if the clocks were turned back a 100 years or so.
We live in a small house that once had an extended family of 8 living in it (10 years ago) with just one fireplace. When we moved in there was a log burning cooker in the fireplace and no other heating. The downstairs had been partitioned off for bedrooms . We have short but very cold winters here and I can imagine how tough life was and how imporatnt it was to prepare for it.
I wonder how scottish crofters lived thru the winter pre electricity? short days and very cold.  ( boredom too? - Hibbernation sounds a good solution. 

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manian

  • Joined Sep 2010
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2012, 08:42:57 am »
thats why they had big families......
1 for lots of body heat :hug: :hug: :hug:
2 for going to bed early to keep warm  :innocent: :innocent:
Mx

ballingall

  • Joined Sep 2008
  • Avonbridge, Falkirk
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2012, 08:53:08 am »
And 3 because of the fact that some of the children might not make it to adulthood......




Beth

Pedwardine

  • Joined Feb 2012
  • South Lincolnshire
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2012, 08:59:37 am »
We're nearly back a hundred years in time at ours. We switched from an oil (got too expensive) fired system to a woodfired boiler but it took a while to get the house connected and transferred over to the new system. In short we've had three winters without any central heating and just our little multifuel burners in the kitchen and the living room. We were getting FREE skiploads of wood to burn as logs were getting too pricey for us too (We do forage ALOT). Now the skip company has no wood to give us and we're back to our multifuel burners again. It's F*****g freezing. Going to bed with hottie botlles and in hats and jumpers at mo and I KNOW it's going to get colder. WE have LPG for our cooker and obviously have leccy so the immersion can be bunged on if we need hot water but it's not very economical as we've no timer to take advantage of economy seven. It means whoever gets up for a pee in the night  :cold: whacks it on and whoever gets up first turns it off. Middle ages?

jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2012, 09:01:41 am »
Yeh, I've lived without central heating both as a child and an adult. Though it's clearly not as pleasant as having the stuff, it's the lights that get me when we get prolonged powercuts. I suppose I ought to invest in an oil lamp.

Sylvia

  • Joined Aug 2009
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2012, 09:12:19 am »
Five to a bed, enormous fatty meals, layers of warm clothing and fortitude.

SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
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Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2012, 09:53:19 am »
I did a part of a winter at Tinkers' Bubble, where the only fossil fuel is the oil in the paraffin lamps and to start the steam-driven saw bench, and the only electricity was generated by their wee windmill - enough for a little bit of lighting and recharging batteries and laptops.  Mostly everyone had head torches with rechargeable batteries, and a hurricane lamp.

Every dwelling had a woodburner, and the communal roundhouse an open fire and a Rayburn, on which they burnt wood and cooked.  There was an outdoors camp-style fire with tripod for hanging a cooking pot and/or kettle - we made the cheese there.

The Bath House had a burner to warm the air in it and to heat the water; when someone wanted a bath they'd set up a notice 'Bath Night Tonight'; they'd start the fire and have the first bath, then others would sign up to keep the fire stoked and have a bath themselves.  Otherwise you washed using water heated in the kettle over the campfire or on the Rayburn.  Hot water bottles were filled ditto.

First person up each morning would start the campfire, whoever was about during the day would keep it going.

Task teams would include wood-getting every day - the wood used communally was fetched by a task team, using the Shire horse for carting if suitable (it was too muddy for the cart when I was there, all wood was hauled by person-power  :o), the wood used in the individual dwellings was fetched by the occupants.

Another task team would be fellers and choppers, felling the next tree to be chopped and stored.  The logs were stored in 'cords', seasoned for two years, then brought up as needed.

It was never boring, there was always plenty to do!  :D

I was rarely cold, the fetching, chopping, sawing of wood warmed you - we used to say all the wood warmed you four times.  Felling and chopping and storing; hauling; sawing / chopping ready for use; and finally, the fourth time, when it was burnt.

Most of us lit a fire in our dwelling to warm the place to go to bed, and I took hot water bottles.  It was cold - snow some of the time - when I was there, I even had a duvet and hottie for the dog!  :D  If you went to bed warm, under sufficient duvets, you stayed warm till morning. 

Getting up was cold, no two ways about it.  Run to the communal loos (big holes in the ground with hessian sacks around as screening) while your clothes warmed on the residual heat in your bed.  Dress quickly!  Then over to the campfire; if you weren't first up, there'd be warmth and hot water already  :), otherwise you'd busy yourself making the fire.  Two large flasks would have been filled the night before to give warm water in the morning for a wash and a cuppa until the fire got going.


I enjoyed that winter and I learned heaps.  It was too hard for me, I couldn't have lived there full time, but I loved the way the business of surviving took up all your time and energy - and kept you warm in the doing of it.
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deepinthewoods

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Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2012, 10:59:50 am »
my house is pretty much the same as when it was made, except the cornish range has gone and a modern chimney put in, we have no central heating and keep warm with the wood burners, getting it to stay in overnight is a skill in itself. my daughter does however have the luxury of an electric blanket. last winter wasnt too bad but the year before i was getting up to -6 in my kitchen and 1/4 inch of ice on the inside of the windows, thats was cold.i was getting up an hour earlier than ellie, to get the fires roaring!
i use about 6m3 of wood a winter, and spend at least 3weeks solid collecting and chopping wood in the summer holidays. i like to have an emergency stash of ash so i felled 2 good crowded ash trees early this year that i can burn if it gets properly cold. originally the range was open to both the main living space and the main bedroom so that would have kept them toasty then although as a gate house i wondered if a family lived here or just a 'gatekeeper'.
 
occasionally i do wish i had central heating, but we never get colds and we are certainly not nesh.

RUSTYME

  • Joined Oct 2009
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2012, 12:00:22 pm »
Lol , never lived in a place with central heating .
Only got gas here in the caravan and that goes off at night , so a bit chilly in the mornings .
It is too hot for me in peoples houses with c/h, i can't breath and get prickly heat .
Not everyone , but in general , people are soft these days and rely far to much on leccy .

MAK

  • Joined Nov 2011
  • Middle ish of France
    • Cadeaux de La forge
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2012, 12:13:02 pm »
Tinkers Bubble sounds a great place to go before moving to an isolated area to start a smallholding. We have no mains drains and I seem to spend cool summer days digging new and better soakaways and keeping the septic tank and exit filters working.
All the above posts just becomes a way of life - like cutting wood when it is 29 degrees so that you can be warm when it is -20 degrees.
We need a post about keeping the log burner going overnight !  ;D
I find myself sorting wood for "overnight" burning each time I go and collect it and search for suitable bits to bring in for the morning when I hope to bring the fire to life with just the right bits. It is an art !! but not sure I have mastered it especially when there is a gale blowing over the chimney stack that increases the draw.
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SallyintNorth

  • Joined Feb 2011
  • Cornwall
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Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2012, 12:26:22 pm »
We need a post about keeping the log burner going overnight !  ;D
I find myself sorting wood for "overnight" burning each time I go and collect it and search for suitable bits to bring in for the morning when I hope to bring the fire to life with just the right bits. It is an art !! but not sure I have mastered it especially when there is a gale blowing over the chimney stack that increases the draw.

The simple answer is - dried horse poo!   :)  It really works!
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sabrina

  • Joined Nov 2008
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2012, 01:29:16 pm »
We used to have ice on the inside of the windows some mornings. Mum would say Jack Frost has been doing his rounds. Winters were lots of snow, days of school so we went sledging my brothers and myself, built snowmen and mum made sure we were wrapped up. Lots of home made soup and stews to keep us warm. We were happy and heathy.

Sylvia

  • Joined Aug 2009
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2012, 01:50:35 pm »
Sally, I remember Jack Frost's beautiful patterns on the inside of windows, how many children have experienced that, these days? You had to "huff" a hole to look out.
But a lovely warm kitchen to get dressed in, an almost as warm cowshed, the real, warm comfort of the cows hay-smelling breath.
The contrast was worth the cold gettings up and the icy bathroom.

Possum

  • Joined Feb 2012
  • Somerset
Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2012, 04:59:39 pm »
SallyintNorth - is there an art to making dried horse poo, or do you just leave it lying around for a bit?  :thinking: Does it smell when you put it in the burner???

plumseverywhere

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  • Worcestershire
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Re: Cold in the old days - how did they do it?
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2012, 05:32:40 pm »
Sally, I remember Jack Frost's beautiful patterns on the inside of windows, how many children have experienced that, these days? You had to "huff" a hole to look out.
But a lovely warm kitchen to get dressed in, an almost as warm cowshed, the real, warm comfort of the cows hay-smelling breath.
The contrast was worth the cold gettings up and the icy bathroom.

You've described our house Sylvia  :)  We have to scrape ice from the insides of the sash windows, we can see our breath some days. Our bath room has one of those electric wall mounted fire things still which is nice. rarely do we get coughs or colds apart from this year, the girls have had bad chests (2 of them anyway) which i put down to the weird weather.
Smallholding in Worcestershire, making goats milk soap for www.itsbaaathtime.com and mum to 4 girls,  goats, sheep, chickens, dog, cat and garden snails...

 

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