[Fowgill Farm]

Just read this
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2232698/Thieves-butcher-pregnant-sheep-alive-Cheadle-Hulme-farm-raids.html
There are some s**t people out there.   I know what i'd do to them if i caught them near my stock!
mandy

[Bionic]

Good grief, thats unbelieveable. How can people do this.
I think if I lived in that area I would be spending the night in the field with my sheep.

[Haylo-peapod]

This is horrific and the people that have done it must be sick in the head. I really cannot understand how anyone can do such a thing and inflict such pain on a poor unsuspecting animal. If they wanted the meat why didn't they at least kill the animal humanely and then take what they wanted??? It makes me SO ANGRY!!!!


If I had my way I'd want to see the perpetrators have the same thing inflicted on them.


I wonder if the attacks have anything to do with Diwali?  If so let's hope that these barbaric attacks have now come to an end.

[Laurasfarm]

Oh that's horrendous, how can people do things like that.  It must be horrific to see that in the morning those poor animals and people

[Mammyshaz]

  that is revolting. Well, any eye for an eye ( or a leg for a leg if I had my way )

[Backinwellies]

I'm speechless!!

[in the hills]

   What kind of person could do that?  It's made me feel physically sick and too right Bionic, think I'd have to camp out with mine for a while.

[rikkib]

What the f---k is going on in this world what are these people capable of    I actually thought I was dreaming when I read this article then i realised it was a nightmare.    I commented before on this forum about a pig headed person my neighbour who thought it was ok and I was making a fuss about her un trained dogs baiting and chasing my sheep then killing our much loved pet cat  although I can't prove it.      So to hear about these sick people than can butcher and leave to die sheep should not realy surprise me

[SallyintNorth]

The article is very distressing to read.

However, it does not ring true to me.

If the crooks are ‘scrupulous’ enough to take only younger sheep as ‘otherwise it would be classed as mutton’, and are such skilled butchers, then they would know that one sure way to render meat unpalatable is to subject the living animal to stress before or during butchering.

Coupled with the physical difficulty of safely and cleanly dismembering a sheep, using butchers’ knives, while the sheep is alive and kicking for its life - utter nonsense IMO.

So at the very least, in my view, the animals must have been stunned and unconscious when the butchery took place.

It is still an horrendous story.

I wish the scaremongering sensationalist press would report only the facts. I feel that I have no reliable source of information, as I know that any story I read, in any medium (this particular outlet is one of the worst IMHO but there isn’t a one I trust), is embellished and gorified for the benefit of the sales figures.

[SteveHants]

I wish the scaremongering sensationalist press would report only the facts. I feel that I have no reliable source of information, as I know that any story I read, in any medium (this particular outlet is one of the worst IMHO but there isn’t a one I trust), is embellished and gorified for the benefit of the sales figures.

Its the Daily Mail  - proud purveyor of hysterical nonsense since 1896.


It doesn't ring true to me either and its depressing how it only took three posts on here for someone to point the finger at 'the ethnics'....

[smiley bucket]

"It doesn't ring true to me either and its depressing how it only took three posts on here for someone to point the finger at 'the ethnics'...."

Some fingers do point in the right direction. It was the first thing that crossed my mind when I read this thread, especially after reading the following on the BFF.
http://farmingforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=76632

[jaykay]

I wonder if the attacks have anything to do with Diwali

Why on earth should they? Diwali is a Hindu and Sikh festival, the festival of lights.

Muslims and Jews slaughter animals without stunning. But that doesn't mean they operate like this.

What these people have done is quite bad enough. We don't need to add to it by slandering people with no evidence.

[Odin]

None of this surprises me. But if I told you why I would be banned from this site but I will give you a clue. The same thing has been happening to swans for example, their caucus left on river banks. Fishing wire with hooks strapped across our canal banks to trap ducks. This kind of butchery and poaching all coincides with the opening of european barriers from the old eastern block countries. Funny how when one has travelled to some of these places, wild life is so scarce ?
Like my Chinese mate said today whilst we ate a bit of best tripe. "The chinese will eat anything with wings or legs, just so long as it ain't the furniture".
Different cultures have some very different views on food & animals. Unfortunately too many Brits cannot get their heads around it.

[moony]

If they were skilled butchers, they would have killed them first. If it was for Halal or Kosher it would have had its throat slit first and drained of blood or they wont eat it. Hindus dont usually eat meat and if they do it has to have been devoid of any emotional or physical stress. Most Indians refrain form eating meat in Diwali. I cant believe the finger of suspicion always points towards entire vultures when the chances are it was some sick kids mucking about.

[SteveHants]

"It doesn't ring true to me either and its depressing how it only took three posts on here for someone to point the finger at 'the ethnics'...."

Some fingers do point in the right direction. It was the first thing that crossed my mind when I read this thread, especially after reading the following on the BFF.
http://farmingforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=76632

And on the same forum, most of the posters think this story is misreported at the very least.


Randomly pointing fingers based on ones own prejudices isn't going to help. Its like all the halal slaughter threads I have ever read. Most halal slaughter is pre-stun, and some kosher isn't, but people would rather bash muslims and know better than to air anti-jewish sentiment because we all know where that leads, don't we?