Author Topic: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife  (Read 18654 times)

Daisys Mum

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2012, 08:08:31 pm »
 
Hope it is all going well my 11 never fail to make me laugh as they sneak into next doors field and play in the puddles, coming back covered in mud. One of mine is crested, I wondered if it was just having a bad hair day till I read your post.Still don't know which are boys and which are girls but they definately make a different sound there are just so many and they move around so quickly that I lose track I think that I need to get 2 different coloured sprays and try to mark them.
Anne

robbiegrant

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2012, 05:40:15 pm »
Greetingz :wave:
"Nice weather for  :&> :&> :&> :&> :&> :&>  :raining:"
At 9pm yesterday. "Ooty" popped out. Noisy wee creature. Yellow, fluffy AND noisey :thumbsup:
Just checked wed teatime and we have 2 ex-pipped one of which has started unzipping :excited:
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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2012, 12:23:14 pm »

Hope it is all going well my 11 never fail to make me laugh as they sneak into next doors field and play in the puddles, coming back covered in mud. One of mine is crested, I wondered if it was just having a bad hair day till I read your post.Still don't know which are boys and which are girls but they definately make a different sound there are just so many and they move around so quickly that I lose track I think that I need to get 2 different coloured sprays and try to mark them.

Thank you. Our big ones are getting up to all sorts of mischief. ( escaping into next doors garden etc ) All of the big ones are quacking. So we think they are girls!  :thumbsup:

We now have three new ducklings.  :excited: Ooty, Jemima and Bali. All white ( yellow )  and nice and fluffy. The other three eggs made it almost to the end but must have been too weak to hatch  :(

Nice that one of yours has a crest. So comical looking with a wee pom pom. Was there evidence of the crest there to begin with or did it develop in time?  We do hope to have one with a crest, no evidence of such so far. maybe its early days?

Best regards

Robbie
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Daisys Mum

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2012, 08:31:53 pm »
 
Hi Robbie the one with the crest looked different from about the 2nd day It does look rather strange with its little pom pom with a feather sticking out the side.
 
Anne

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2012, 10:29:02 pm »
 :( we just lost jemima. she did seem very quite and was hardly eating, even sugar water
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northfifeduckling

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2012, 10:46:45 pm »
so sad, Robbie  :bouquet: :&> :&>

Mammyshaz

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2012, 11:02:12 pm »
 :bouquet: poor jemima. Hope your others are still strong   :fc:

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2012, 10:29:10 pm »
:bouquet: poor jemima. Hope your others are still strong   :fc:
Thanks... We think Jemima died from an infection, her eyes looked abnormally big and puffy around the edges, quite different to the other two. ( God only knows from where because we are paying close attention to sterilising and cleaning as always )

Ooty is going for it. not shy, loud and proud and a wee climber, intent on trying to get to the top of your head whenever he/she/it is placed in ones lap. Eating and drinking and pooing no prob. Full of energy

Bali is a bit quieter, although he/she/it goes through the process of pecking im not convinced she/he/it is getting enough. She is not interested in chick crumb, but definately has a go at the smashed up hard boiled egg yolk and gluscose water from time to time. Bali is the first duckling I have met that doesn't put the head back after a drink. This has had me scratching my head. There seems to be much more egg residue on these two from birth, it had caked hard on Bali's neck and side of head, we are slowly wiping it off with a kitchen towel dipped in warm water. I wonder if this is why the wee soul is not putting her/his head back. I wonder if it has been making swallowing difficult.?

In view of this and the fact we lost one last night Bali is on a two hour supplemental feeding cycle ( 0.5cc warm liquid egg yolk. ) They both get a we wipe with warm water at the same time. The residue is slowly shifting.

We have started  weighing Bali to determine if she is making headway. 47.0 grams, Dosnt seem much considering the size of the eggs!

She/he does seem to have more energy now, peeping away to Ooty, wagging her tail and preening after each wipe down. So sofar  we are winning  :fc:

I haven't witnessed Bali pooing yet... I am keeping my eyes open for this.

We have been beating ourselves up over the weak state of Bali and Jemima and have come to several conclusions.

1. Don't buy your eggs from ebay through the post.  There are too many variables. You dont really know the health or nutrition of the parent stock, ( many of these eggs where infertile ) and better not putting the eggs at the mercy of our postal service. ( These eggs arrived shook up, One broken others with air pockets detached )

2. Try not raise your ducklings out of season.

3. Check check and check again your incubator, or better, use the help of a sitting Mum and have the incy standing by just incase.

4. Do buy from recommended breeders ( Indian Runner Duck Association have a list ), Collect the eggs, ( or better still young ducklings ) in the car... Although there are logistic problems with keeping them warm, that should be a huge issue.

Needless to say if we add anymore to our flock we will be buying from a IRDA recommended breeder and going to get them ourselves. and it wont be till late spring. Probably just after the mallards start hatching on the riverbank.

Hindsight is a wonderfull thing....

Our big girls (   :thumbsup:  GIRLS!!!  :thumbsup: ) are wonderful, "Vasilly" ( Yes, its a mans name but it has stuck ) is a pure bred white, "Kroshka" and "Bigyin" ( Runner Trouts ) are loving life, they are very cozy in their wendy house, They love taking a bath in the paddling pool ( ARGOS £3.99 ) and even come for walks with us away up the trail and into the fields.

We love them and wouldn't swap them for the world!  :trophy:

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Mammyshaz

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2012, 11:30:12 pm »
Sounds like they have a great life at your place  :thumbsup:
 :fc: bali and pals do well. Is it worth supplementing them for a few days to ensure a good supply of food and energy ( especially if an infection of sorts is doing the rounds. )

No experience of fowl rearing but certainly would do this with other young, so I do apologise if this is not feasible.

Wish you the best of luck with the rest of rearing. Keep us informed please  :sunshine:


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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2012, 11:50:46 pm »
 :wave:
Two and a half hours later Bali is now happily putting her head back when drinking and eating "smashed hard boiled egg"

She/he/Itself has just weighed in at 50grams

Unless my previous measurement was incorrect ( they dance about on the scales ) she has gained 3 grams in a bit less than 3 hours... a gram and hour sounds like loads tho!  gonna weigh again in a couple o hours and see.. maybe a made and error.

She means happier. no pipette feed this time. just put a selection of feeds in plus glucose milk and leaving Bali be
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Mammyshaz

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2012, 12:04:32 am »
The weight gain could have been due to supplementing when baby is suffering dehydration if baby hasn't been feeding correctly. I would think about continuing to supplement if possible  :sunshine:
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robbiegrant

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2012, 01:29:32 am »
The weight gain could have been due to supplementing when baby is suffering dehydration if baby hasn't been feeding correctly.

That's a good point. Thanks. I'm pretty sure i got the measurements and times correct so that would explain 1gram ph.

In the last hour Bali has changed dramatically. We recently observed her (  :fc: ) tucking into the duckling crumb and drinking normally like there has never been a problem... .  50.4 grams at 00:30. She is tucking into liquid egg yolk, milk with glucose and smashed boiled egg  too now.

Just going to watch a BBC4 science program i recorded this evening on Energy and stuff, so as long as I dont fall down a black hole i will check her weight before bed ( and get her weight correct again! ;D )

We have agonised over the stress created through force feeding a weak duckling with a pipette.  In this case It has been nessesary.  She ( :fc:) is drinking normally now, head back and everything. her last

it didn't help that we put them together because  we could not tell exactly who was eating what and pooing what... Separating them after they had got used to each other ( even with a sheet of glass was veto'ed by my wife on the basis that the stronger chick stimulated the weaker one and they screamed for each other when serarated )

Its maybe 6 hours since she was fed with pipette. I will give her 0.5ml egg yolk before bed.

A visibly happier duckling that 24hours ago!  :fc:
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Mammyshaz

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2012, 08:05:25 am »
How's she doing this morning?

robbiegrant

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2012, 12:59:42 pm »
 :wave: Greetings... Much better thanks.
She is doing much better. She is sitting on a towel on my lap as I type  :eyelashes:. She just weighed in at 55.5 grams! So she has gained 4 grams since 02:00am  :) She is standing steadier, and peeping away contentedly, eating and drinking normally ( even tucking into the duckling crumb! )

This encrusted egg residue is proving difficult to remove but its coming off slowly with gentle application of kitchen towel and cotton bud. At least the little darlings are not so stressed about their cleaning sessions as before. I do think the hard encrusted residue around Balis neck contributing to Balis eating problems. There is no sign of infection like with Jemima, poor wee soul.

Keeping a close eye but looks like crisis over  :fc:

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Mammyshaz

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2012, 02:52:49 pm »
Good news  :thumbsup: keep up the good work  :&>  :&>

 

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