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robbiegrant

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Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« on: September 19, 2012, 02:09:46 am »
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Greetings.
The second stage of developing our IR flock starts here.
Incubator sterile and drying over night.
17 beautiful, large, 75-80 grams IR eggs ( White, some crested ) sitting in front of me  :)
 :wave:WELCOME TO SCOTLAND GUYS N GIRLS! :-*
( Post Office burst one in transit ) :'( The buggers...  :rant:
They have been sitting on a north facing window sill at 14-15degrees after their journey.
Gonna give them a clean and a candle now and them rest them point down to slowly come up to room temp.
will set tomorrow morning.
Robbie.
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robbiegrant

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2012, 02:33:16 am »
Nightmare in incubator land.
Seems at some point the egg turning arm on our brinsea polyhatch has snapped! All fixed now but haven't a clue how long its been burst!. ( It was working fine when I set it up ) We did have a wee power cut on thursday, maybe it snapped then whilst moving the incy? dunno  :(

Looks like 10 of the 17 eggs are sterile, all i can see is clear egg and yolk inside.  :-\ but that is over 10 days, something would have shown by now I would imagine.

7 of the eggs have life!  :fc: Blood vessels, light sensitive embrios when candled. I am worried the eggs not being turned will have caused them a problem with developement. Anyone got any idea's. I suppose we will have to suck it n see, don't have a choice really?

We will just have to see....
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Sylvia

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2012, 06:50:52 am »
This is why I prefer to use a manual incubator. Hope they hatch safely :fc:

robbiegrant

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2012, 12:09:48 pm »
We are gutted. Anybody got any experience of this? Will they DIS? We are so worried about the little souls. The eggs where set on the 19th sept, the incubator was tested and working fine at the time...
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northfifeduckling

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2012, 10:22:30 pm »
Robbie, this only shows how fragile the oncoming lives are...I think it happens to each and every duck mum and then they chuck the eggs out of the nest!  :bouquet: :&>

robbiegrant

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2012, 07:24:14 pm »
The machine has been turning them correctly now the arm has been repaired ( as soon as i discovered we had a problem ). There are signs of movement inside of some so we are not going to throw them out just yet. Even though there is evidence of fertilisation in 7 there is a good chance that they will not all do the term( one of them looks a bit strange inside when I candle ).

Anyway Im wondering if anyone has had experience in this instance and whether it was a total loss or some chicks/ducklings hatched after not being turned for a couple of days?
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Big Light

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2012, 09:26:22 am »
The strong ones may survive weaker ones now have less chance - If you think of the hen she doesnt have the brains to say i will turn c3 half a turn at 2.30 - its random - I have incubated and forgotten to put the turner on after checking then realised a day or 2 later whoops!
But most did hatch,  specific embryo stages could be more critical but i would just keep going and see what happens

robbiegrant

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2012, 01:01:03 pm »
 :wave: Big Light.
Put a big smile on my face to read this. Many thanks for your post. Last night after a careful candling I now know that 6 of 7 are still alive and wriggling about ( light sensitive ). So now there are six. I doubt the turner was off for more than 2 days so hopefully  :fc: looks like we may still on be track for a hatching on 17th.

This batch has the crested gene! :) It would be lovely to add crested runners to our wee flock  :D 

Thanks again.

Robbie
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Big Light

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2012, 05:47:14 am »
No probs good luck

robbiegrant

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2012, 12:19:39 am »
Greeting people.
We are in lock down.
6 eggs wiggling about on the hatcher tray.
Hatching date 17th Oct

Interestingly two of the eggs are longer and more equal at each end ( as opposed to egg shaped ) 
Wonder if that means anything?!

Anyway. Sponges installed, humidity at 70. Temp has been dropped half a degree to 37.0

Fingers crossed  :fc:

As the mummy woodlouse said to the baby woodlouse " see you slater "  :roflanim:
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Daisys Mum

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2012, 10:01:34 am »
 
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northfifeduckling

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2012, 04:19:01 pm »

Interestingly two of the eggs are longer and more equal at each end ( as opposed to egg shaped ) 
Wonder if that means anything?!


well, old wives' tale says that the longer ones are boys and the round ones are girls  :roflanim: My personal experience says it's true as I secretly choose them accordingly but it probably is more likely that certain ducks lay differently shaped eggs, a personality trait  :&>

robbiegrant

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2012, 12:37:20 am »

Interestingly two of the eggs are longer and more equal at each end ( as opposed to egg shaped ) 
Wonder if that means anything?!


Certain ducks lay differently shaped eggs, a personality trait  :&>

Yes...Peering into my childhood I remember recognising eggs from particular chickens ( we had a lot of chooks at the time ) and.... Ducks wont be much different.  I would add that different runner ducks, ( from different flocks ) lay different eggs. Vasily came from Somerset, Kroshka and Bigyin from nottinghamshire ( i think ) and these have come from Leicester. Eggs from each clutch where uniform(ish) within themselves. The A's looks similar to each other ( thick calcite white shell, B's Similar to each other ( thinner shells and more blue )... But the C's where HUGE in comparison with the others more transparent white. Some of the C's, 2 in particular, are long and even ended.

We are hoping its the runners crested gene peeking through its DNA at us....  :excited:  The more different the runner the more different the egg shape! 

Well... soon we shall see.  C2 ex pipped at teatime and is rocking around the hatcher like an egg possessed.

Come on dem crested genes! :thumbsup:
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robbiegrant

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2012, 11:20:21 am »
C2 unzipping... Nothing from the rest yet, though "D"uck day is ramorra  :fc: :fc: :fc: :fc: :fc: :fc: :fc: :fc:
Come on boys and girls :thumbsup:
Come on dem crested genes....  :fc:
Or hooked bills!!!   :excited:
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northfifeduckling

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Re: Our Second brood of 17 Indian runners in Fife
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2012, 02:52:38 pm »
fingers crossed for the new lives  :fc: :fc: :&> :&>

 

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