Author Topic: Policewomen shooting  (Read 8480 times)

Roxy

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Policewomen shooting
« on: September 18, 2012, 11:19:21 pm »
 
I cannot believe that man lured the two PC's to that house, and then shot them.  They never stood a chance did they?  Absolutely terrible.  I thought the Police wore bullet proof vests - at least those in cities.  Although these ladies were not in a city, but a town ....a town about 5 miles from me.  I was at my friends farm in Mottram delivering hay on Sunday afternoon.  Its a big estate, locally known as the overspill from Manchester.  Never known anything as terrible as this happen there.
It makes you think, you do not know what lies ahead when you set off for work in a morning.  Those poor PC's were only doing their job ....frightening to think people in this country are carrying guns, and  our Police are largely unarmed.
 
 
 
 

JFDI

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Hertfordshire
Re: Policewomen shooting
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2012, 12:02:00 am »
My son wears a stab and bullet resistant jacket but it only covers the torso and even then you can be unlucky if a bullet enters an armhole. But they're awkward and not everyone wears them all the time.  Some forces offer a lighter stab vest but it's a compromise.

It's these situations that ensures that the next stupid sod who waves a toy pistol in public will get shot.

jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: Policewomen shooting
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2012, 06:57:29 am »
Well that's why the coward handed himself in, isn't it. Because the police forces around the country would have made damn sure he was shot when he was finally caught. Quite right too.

Castle Farm

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Re: Policewomen shooting
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2012, 07:11:01 am »
They should hang the murdering scum.
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tizaala

  • Joined Mar 2011
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Re: Policewomen shooting
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2012, 07:20:09 am »
That murderer is responsible for the death of 4 people, just a cold blooded killer. with a ready supply of guns ammo and grenades,
We now have to look after him and protect him for the rest of his life , He now has more rights than you or I,
those girls had given  5 years and 3 years service protecting the public , one was about to marry .
 
All we need now is a length of rope for this bastard, I would willingly supply it and use it. :rant:

Rosemary

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Barry, Angus, Scotland
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Re: Policewomen shooting
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2012, 10:39:50 am »
So sad for their families  :'(

But I hope it never leads to our police being routinely armed.

Bionic

  • Joined Dec 2010
  • Talley, Carmarthenshire
Re: Policewomen shooting
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2012, 11:10:06 am »
It is very sad. I used to be a special constable and I know vulnerable the police can be at times. Having said that I don't believe they should be routinely armed either.
Bring back hanging
 
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RUSTYME

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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2012, 11:29:51 am »
2014 , semi automatic rifles for the general police .
Then there are  europol, the eu police set to replace the british  police , they are already armed .
The info is all there on the web site of the United States of Europe , of which the former UK is part of .
The list of unarmed civilians shot and killed by the police , is far bigger than the one of police shot by civilians .
Why should the police be allowed to commit murder , because they are the good guys ? Mmmm Simon Harwood , the bastards that pumped Jean Charles De Menenez full of 'ilegal' dum dum bullets , 5 , in what was once his head !
It is , however , terrible that these poor young ladies got shot by this nutter , but he is one of very few , and knee jerk reactions are not what is needed at a time like this .
Law and justice are what is needed , otherwise feckit , lets all have guns and blow the crap out of each other , grab a rope and hang who we 'think' is the guilty one !
Trial by jury not by media and vigilanties , otherwise we are no better than the bad guys . Which ones are they again ?

SallyintNorth

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Re: Policewomen shooting
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2012, 11:36:35 am »
So sad for their families  :'(

But I hope it never leads to our police being routinely armed.

Hear hear on both counts
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SallyintNorth

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Re: .
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2012, 11:38:09 am »
2014 , semi automatic rifles for the general police .
Then there are  europol, the eu police set to replace the british  police , they are already armed .
The info is all there on the web site of the United States of Europe , of which the former UK is part of .
The list of unarmed civilians shot and killed by the police , is far bigger than the one of police shot by civilians .
Why should the police be allowed to commit murder , because they are the good guys ? Mmmm Simon Harwood , the bastards that pumped Jean Charles De Menenez full of 'ilegal' dum dum bullets , 5 , in what was once his head !
It is , however , terrible that these poor young ladies got shot by this nutter , but he is one of very few , and knee jerk reactions are not what is needed at a time like this .
Law and justice are what is needed , otherwise feckit , lets all have guns and blow the crap out of each other , grab a rope and hang who we 'think' is the guilty one !
Trial by jury not by media and vigilanties , otherwise we are no better than the bad guys . Which ones are they again ?

Oh, well said Russ.  :thumbsup:
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Lesley Silvester

  • Joined Sep 2011
  • Telford
Re: Policewomen shooting
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2012, 01:10:42 pm »
My sympathies also go out to their families, friends and colleagues, particularly the poor man who was planning his wedding.   :bouquet:
 
I don't think our police should be armed.  It will only encourage criminals to use guns just in case.  Ruass, I agree with what you said.

Rosemary

  • Joined Oct 2007
  • Barry, Angus, Scotland
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Re: Policewomen shooting
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2012, 02:05:24 pm »
I heard on the radio this morning that 76 policemen/women have been killed in the line of duty since 1945 (I THINK it was that date, defo 76). Each a terrible tragedy for those involved.

Don't know if that includes the poor guy who topped himself after being blinded by Raul Moat.

JFDI

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Hertfordshire
Re: Policewomen shooting
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2012, 06:57:15 pm »
Weapons in the wrong hands lead to tragedies but I don't know what the solution is other than arming some of the police.  I saw a pair of armed police in St Pancras station this week and it is chilling.  Personally I don't want to see the return of hanging, though.  I remember hangings being reported on the radio when I was at school.  I do waver sometimes though.

Rustyme, the dum-dum bullet was banned under the Hague Convention for military use before the first world war since when some far nastier weaponry has been developed.  Napalm for example is still legal for military use and cluster bombs have only recently been banned.   Hollow point bullets are widely used for hunting.  Their advantage is that they stay in the target rather than going straight through and hitting whatever is half a mile behind.  That's exactly why the police use them: whether or not the shooting is justified nobody wants bystanders injured.

jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
  • Cumbria/N Yorks border
Re: Policewomen shooting
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2012, 07:23:31 pm »
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But I hope it never leads to our police being routinely armed
I used to think that. But actually,now I think they deal with too many dangerous situations not to be. Maybe at least some of the scum would think twice if they knew they could be shot when they attack people. I don't want people who are protecting me to be unprotected themselves.

deepinthewoods

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Re: Policewomen shooting
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2012, 07:32:39 pm »
your more likely to die in police custody then by terrorism. 1433 since 1990. not one copper has been convicted of any of these deaths. including ian tomlinsons killer.
76 coppers since 1945? 1 ish  a year? hardly an 'at risk' group, considering the pay and pension.
blatant  cases of murder should be prosecuted by hanging in my book.
please dont arm the police. theyre vicious enough as it is.

 

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