Author Topic: Total veg growing newbie  (Read 4772 times)

Mallows Flock

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Total veg growing newbie
« on: August 28, 2012, 07:42:58 pm »
Hiya everyone  :D
I have decided to turn my lovely mediteranean-style back bit of garden into a raised bed veg garden.
I have just put in 3 lots of 3' x 4' beds and 2 lots of 6' x 3' beds.
There is only myself and my son in my family so it's not like we are feeding a family of 5 or anything, and I am also intending on growing some things such as garlic and lettuce leaves in pots.
Obviously I have missed most of the season for veg growing but I am doing it NOW otherwise next year I will not get round to it again what with lambing, raising orphans etc etc.
I was wondering if anyone had any basic advice on what to grow on such small sized meds for someone with absolutely NO experience of growing veg... well, successfully anyway!
p.s the spot is shady in the morning, mainly full sun with a little shade in the afternoon... if this helps.
Is there anything other members would recommend me putting in within the next 2 weeks?
Thank yo so much
lisa x
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YorkshireLass

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Re: Total veg growing newbie
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2012, 08:14:47 pm »
Are you wanting annual veg, and/or fruit?
Soft fruit very expensive in shops.... Winter's a good time to plant trees.... Raspberries are good for beginners too...  :innocent:


http://www.growsonyou.com/question/show/169-what-veg-can-i-plant-now


I've recently sown chard and leaf beet, and have yet more broccoli in seed trays waiting to be planted out. You can also buy specially stored spuds to plant now and harvest for Xmas :)

RUSTYME

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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2012, 08:22:55 pm »
Hello mf ,
still loads of stuff can go in now . Lettuce , spring onion , raddishes , spinach , brassicas ie spring cabbage , endive , and if you have cloches you can sow an even bigger list for weeks yet .
Will you be growing on say  a 4 year rotation ?
How fertile is the soil ?
You will need to get some organic matter into the soil ie well rotted manure , to feed your crops ,  ( but not where you intend to grow carrots !) , and to give a good structure to the soil .
Don't panic though , it seems a lot at first , but it is all done in order over time , not all tomorrow .
Cheers Russ

Mallows Flock

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Re: Total veg growing newbie
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2012, 08:47:04 pm »
Blimey! Brilliant! I had no idea I could still grow so much!
Yes, raspberries sound nice. I can grow them outside my raised beds. I have gooseberry, black cherry, apple and pear trees already as well as a couple fo blackcurrants (just one or 2 of each - small trees) that normally produce brilliant fruit (bar the pear - a few small hard fruits) but this years rain has ruined all that. About 5 blighted apples, cherry has leaf curl and no gooseberries at all! What a shame!
I am spring onion obsessed so that has made me one happy girlie and lettuces, spring cabbage sound good too.
4 year rotation? What's that?
I can get lots of well rotted horse poo - my pal with be please to at last find an outlet for her horse's leftovers  :innocent:
No idea how fertile the soil is underneath as it was covered in stone chippings for years til I shovelled it all off for my raised beds, but I will be filling them with compost/horse compost and peat mix! (is this correct?)
 
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Mammyshaz

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Re: Total veg growing newbie
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 10:59:07 pm »
I'm trying Xmas potatoes this year too  :excited:

Spring onion, beetroot and lettuce seeds planted  two weeks ago. Cabbage going in hopefully this weekt along with onions and garlic when I get the bulbs ( these will be ready next year. )

Last year my son took a couple of cuttings of sweet peppers and grew them on his bedroom windowsill. We had fresh peppers in April  :o it was great and I must admit I was doubtful they would give anything. He was only nine years so was sooo pleased with the result until he wanted to sell them to me   :o

RUSTYME

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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 11:48:45 pm »
Soil . The beds are only small , but are you fit and ok to dig ? I assume yes .
Try to double dig if you can . This is done by digging a trench one spade deep across one end of a bed . Place the removed soil at the other end of the bed .
Now , i use a fork , turn over the bottom of the trench and mix in well rotted manure @ 2 buckets to a sq yd .
Then , moving along the bed , dig another trench next to the first one , placing this soil ontop of the first one .
Dig the bottom of trench 2 and mix in more manure .
Continue along the bed till you reach the last trench , then once you have dug the bottom and added the manure , place the saved soil , from the first trench , ontop . Job done .
A 4 year rotation is just a way of growing veg to avoid pest and disease build up by growing the same family of veg in the same spot , year after year . If i try a complete explanation here it wil take me hours , i am using a mobile phone to connect !
A good example of what to do is at ;
www.gardenaction.co.uk then search for allotment rotation .
You can get winter hardy white lisbon spring onions now from www.dtbrownseeds.co.uk  . These can be sown through till october , as can guardsman .
Check with your friend regarding manure , for when there is likely to be wormer or other meds in it , what goes in the horse , comes out ! And what goes into the soil goes into your veg !
Don't manure the root bed , carrots , parsnips , onion , garlic , leek etc , but you can mix in a bag or two of  cheap potting compost to help with soil structure and plant feeding .
If you add a lot of peat , you may need to check the ph after a few weeks or so . Then adjust accordingly with some lime .
Keeps you busy eh ?

Mallows Flock

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Re: Total veg growing newbie
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2012, 10:48:13 pm »
Oh my...I had to print this out as a reference guide. Thanks all! I guess I had a bit of an idea that i would have to put in good quality soil, compost and poo but i thought with just a few raised beds i could get off quite likely. LOL. Seems not!  ;)
Thank you so much for all your input. Even my 9 year old is excited about having his own raised bed. It's great for him to learn a  bit more about what it takes to produce food!
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Mallows Flock

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Re: Total veg growing newbie
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2012, 10:50:53 pm »
p.s just thought. i am without greenhouse, and as i have boarding dogs, growing seeds inside is likely to be disasterous! Should I go for plug plants instead???????
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deepinthewoods

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Re: Total veg growing newbie
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2012, 11:00:56 pm »
yes.
youd have a job rearing strong seedlings for winter now. get plugs in quick and you could have soe good crops through winter, chard and kale will stand well, as will leeks, and psb is essential!

Plantoid

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Re: Total veg growing newbie
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2012, 11:20:57 pm »
 
I've just copied and given you what i've posted elsewhere
 
those beds are ideal for squarefoot gardening.............
 
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"  All New Square Foot Gardening " by Mel Bartholomew 2006 edition  ISBN code 1-59186-202-7
 
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