Author Topic: The Need for Speed  (Read 4794 times)

Fleecewife

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The Need for Speed
« on: August 25, 2012, 12:48:25 pm »
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Have you noticed how if you need to have an animal seen by the vet, you get an appointment the same day, whereas for a human you can wait for weeks to be seen at the hospital?   This must have something to do with the fact that with animals speed is often vital in dealing with their health problems.
 
Here is what happened with a three year old breeding tup here: on the first sheep check in the morning my OH noticed this tup standing apart from the rest of his chums, leaning against the fence, head and ears down, a bit of foam at the mouth and with laboured breathing.  Listeriosis sprang immediately to mind as there is some disturbed soil in their paddock, so first off we gave him a hefty dose of antibiotics.
 
Now I know that antibiotics should not always be the first port of call in an emergency, but with a sheep showing respiratory distress, as this tup was, there is every reason to dose as quickly as possible.  We then took the sheep down to the vet in the trailer, having called first.  Normally we would stick a sheep in the back of a Landrover, but this lad is too heavy to lift that high, and he was too sick.
 
The vet diagnosed listeriosis and gave the poor lad a huge dose of more antiBs, steroids and Vit B, and told us to get going with rehydration mixture - this is made up from one litre of warm water, one teaspoon of salt, and one tablespoon of glucose.  The glucose can be increased where the animal needs more.  We were also to repeat his long acting antibiotics, at a greater dose than normal, twice a day initially (ie a pretty massive dose), and repeat the steroid and Vit B injections.  As I was just out of hospital myself, this all fell to my OH to do, and he has proved a good nurse  :) .
 
We decided to leave the tup in the trailer as we had no isolation area prepared, but we left the ramp down for air.  The trailer was parked in the orchard, where we also have four ancient unbred biddies.  I went to check after a couple of hours and found the tup standing outside the trailer, looking a bit pleased with himself.
 
Over the following days, he was given plenty more meds, frequent doses of rehydration mix and we made sure he didn't 'go down' - but he didn't.  Each day he pottered around a bit and showed a definite interest in the ancient ewes (who could run away from him easily enough).  He started licking a 'sugar corn' bucket with liquid treacle on top, and drank plenty of water so the rehydration mix was no longer needed.  He has grazed some grass and the foam at his mouth has just about disappeared.  He will take 'tup and lamb' coarse mix now, in small quantities.  Overall, the picture is looking hopeful and we are wondering at what point we should re-introduce him back with his pals - obviously he has to be strong enough to stand up to the initial jostling. 
 
The vet is completely delighted at his good progress and has confided that she really didn't think he would survive, so all the meds she gave were a last-ditch attempt to save an animals life.  That attempt appears to have been successful.
 
The point of this tale is to demonstrate that when it comes to treating animals, especially sheep, you really must get straight in there and do something or you could have a dead animal to dispose of.  You don't have the luxury of spending a few days wondering what you should do.  It's a good idea to have a book with the most obvious ailments described so you have some idea of what is significant and what is not.
 
Please remember - speed is of the essence  :sheep:
 
 
 
« Last Edit: August 25, 2012, 12:53:09 pm by Fleecewife »
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SallyintNorth

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Re: The Need for Speed
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2012, 01:34:23 pm »
Great post, Fleecewife  :thumbsup:

You clearly did all the right things, and by getting the tup to the vet so promptly, gave the vet a fighting chance of sorting him out.  So often the vet is the last port of call, and the battle is already lost by the time s/he gets to see the animal.  In these cases, all the vet can really do is give palliatives or terminate suffering, and offer husbandry advice to reduce the incidence of the problem in the remainder of the flock.  Which all builds the feeling that, "the vet never does any good anyway."

I completely agree that I too would give prompt antibiotics for respiratory distress in a single animal. 
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jaykay

  • Joined Aug 2012
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Re: The Need for Speed
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2012, 02:43:33 pm »
Fleecwife - important point!
I'm glad he's doing well, after all that. And hope you're mending too  :-*

moprabbit

  • Joined Oct 2011
  • North Notts
Re: The Need for Speed
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2012, 03:43:39 pm »
So pleased everything went well for you. Hope it continues. Well done! 
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Brucklay

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Re: The Need for Speed
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2012, 10:04:30 pm »
Where meds. are concerned I have very little here so it's always a call to the vet - but just as an added wee bit - it knowing your flock that's the first point - knowing who act's in what way and knowing when some'sheep' is out of sorts - that the first sign - not looking them selves, not coming for feed, standing alone - vet for me - oh and glad rammie is on the mend x
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SteveHants

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Re: The Need for Speed
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2012, 11:18:28 pm »
Where meds. are concerned I have very little here so it's always a call to the vet - but just as an added wee bit - it knowing your flock that's the first point - knowing who act's in what way and knowing when some'sheep' is out of sorts - that the first sign - not looking them selves, not coming for feed, standing alone - vet for me - oh and glad rammie is on the mend x


Its 'noticing things' which is kinda 80% of being a stockman/woman.


I don't 'know' all my ewes, but to me a sick one sticks out like a sore thumb. Usually - we all have our moments.

Bramblecot

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Re: The Need for Speed
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2012, 11:30:16 pm »



I don't 'know' all my ewes, but to me a sick one sticks out like a sore thumb. Usually - we all have our moments.
Years ago I was talking to an old farm worker near our house.  He was looking over the fields and said 'I'll be a minute'.  He walked towards a flock of pigeons, bent down and picked one up.  She was dead as he lifted her, breaking her neck quickly.  He had seen that she had a broken wing from a hundred yards away.  He told me that you always need to keep your eyes open and act quickly.  Wise words from an old gent.

Foobar

  • Joined Mar 2012
  • South Wales
Re: The Need for Speed
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2012, 02:30:02 pm »
Concur 100%.


They say the first sign of a sick sheep is a dead sheep.
(obviously that's not 100% true, but I will be if you don't keep a watch over your flock)


I seem to spend a lot of time hiding behind things in order to observe my sheep, cos I know they will pretend to be fine when they know that I'm there!  I think my neighbours think I'm a bit strange... :)

Fleecewife

  • Joined May 2010
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Re: The Need for Speed
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2012, 02:39:35 pm »
That made me laugh foobar  ;D  - a brilliant mental picture.  My aunt used to do that at lambing time but she never fooled the sheep - they just got spooked by her antics as she was acting like a predator.  Once they get used to you leaning over a gate for ages staring at them they eventually ignore you and act naturally  :sheep:   Definitely knowing what's normal for your sheep on your land is important to know - great excuse to enjoy the day  :farmer:
"Let's not talk about what we can do, but do what we can"

There is NO planet B - what are YOU doing to save our home?

Do something today that your future self will thank you for - plant a tree

 Love your soil - it's the lifeblood of your land.

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Re: The Need for Speed
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2012, 03:20:19 pm »
that reminds me there used to be a programme on the telly   sunnyside farm or something like that
the old man used to stand at the back of the wall   the front shot you would think was fully clothed  the back shot he only had his jacket on :roflanim:

 

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